Are they having a laugh ?

[screenman]

sorry, don't follow? cycling clubs?

So you may not have been told some of things I was.

 

[400bhp]

huh?

 

[snorri]

The area is where I ride most Sundays, .

...so why did you need to download the route from the sportive website if you know the area already?
It rather looks as if you enjoy group cycling but just don't want to pay for the pleasure, which takes us back to the freeloading.

 

[screenman]

The lore

Correct. Do you you think it is wrong.

 

[screenman]

Freeloading? What would he take from the event?

You really are just trying to wind up tonight .

 

[screenman]

Freeloading? What would he take from the event?

The feeling of camaraderie. Ever felt it?

 

[screenman]

Read the forum and find your answer

I only asked, a very simple yes or no would have done.

 

[nickyboy]

Yes and no. I wouldn't tag uninvited on the back of a club run where I was not a member. On the other hand BHF's L2B is fair game.

Marginal cost isn't the issue here. Others have paid for the feeling of camaraderie associated with a mass participation ride. That's part of the product. If you just tag along then you get that same, warm feeling but without contributing.
And that's not reasonable

 

[theclaud]

Marginal cost isn't the issue here. Others have paid for the feeling of camaraderie associated with a mass participation ride. That's part of the product. If you just tag along then you get that same, warm feeling but without contributing.
And that's not reasonable

You can't buy it.

 

[potsy]

You can't buy it.

Not even for £99?

 

[400bhp]

As has been alluded to above, don't compare a club run to a sportive. The difference is striking, not least because they most often welcome "non payers".

I am waiting for the first motor manufactor to bring out a "sportive" model.

 

[nickyboy]

You can't buy it.

Sure you can. Along with waymarking, food and goodie bags, the feeling of being part of a large group all participating in the same activity is one of the main selling (and thus buying) points

 

[jayonabike]

Whether I turn up or not and ride the route on PUBLIC roads as the same time as people that have paid some company to do the same, get a time chip, energy drink and cheap cake makes no odds to the company or their profits.

 

[nickyboy]

And how does a person interloping deminish this? Do they steel an incie bit off each of the paying customers?

Just a few interlopers doesn't diminish. I just don't like people refusing to pay for some benefit that others are paying for whilst at the same time enjoying that benefit.

If someone doesn't want to pay and participate that's fine....but why not ride the route another day on their own?

 

[StuAff]

Back in August 2012 I and a few other bods rode overnight from Pompey down to Studland Point and back to Bournemouth. Most of us then rode back home, when we found ourselves sharing the road with some participants of the New Forest Rattler sportive. Some of them drafted us for a bit, though we had twice as many miles in our legs already as they were going to do all in. Could we have charged them for the privilege, or felt entitled to have said 'oi mate, give us one of your free gels'? Nope. Why should we? Same principle. And 'camaraderie' in a mass ride? Depends on the ride and the participants. In something like the British Legion's Pedal to Paris, definitely- there was most emphatically an all-for-one spirit, even with nearly 300 riders. A common cause and the way the ride was organised helped there. That, and it was a charity ride with the emphasis on charity, not profit. Sportives, even the good ones? Nope. The really big charity rides? Nope. And as for the Dun Run......