Are we being forced to go electric?

[CXRAndy]

However what about all the quiet EVs made before 2019 !?

My 2018 Nissan Leaf made a futuristic sound below 20mph. I think the Leafs have done this way before any concern.

What ever happened to taking personal responsibility? You know, when we were taught as kids to look and listen twice before crossing roads.

Every other f****r these days just needs to blame somebody/something else for their own ineptitude

 

[Illaveago]

Not many boy racers running about in EVs no self respecting boy racer would dare

The batteries wouldn't last long .

 

[gbb]

My 2018 Nissan Leaf made a futuristic sound below 20mph. I think the Leafs have done this way before any concern.

What ever happened to taking personal responsibility? You know, when we were taught as kids to look and listen twice before crossing roads.

Every other f****r these days just needs to blame somebody/something else for their own ineptitude

While i generally agree (taking responsibility) i have once or twice had occasions in supermarket carparks where a silent car has moved off near me and quite surprised me. Its a very sensible thing to have them alert people as they move off tbf., kids and all that.

 

[DRM]

The batteries wouldn't last long .

They wouldn't but, kids are much more computer savvy than us and with each generation, they'll work out how to get into the cars locked parameters and up the speed and acceleration off the scale, electronic tuning without getting dirty is what they'll be up to

 

[Illaveago]

Nobody seems to have addressed the revenues that the government is going to lose out on as more electric vehicles become more common . It is fine at the moment running tax free and cheap electric bit as revenues drop they will have to be replaced by something . Will domestic use be taxed more as we are at the moment for the change to renewable energy ? Filling stations may be converted into charging stations but they will want to charge people for the time they are using the charging points . Filling a fuel tank takes less time than charging so more customers could have used that space in the same time .
Diesel fuel will still have to be made as not all of the rail network has been electrified, the majority of busses still run on it and many are old vehicles passed down from other areas . There have also been an increase of small generating plants built which run on diesel . They may say that coal fired power stations are declining but they haven't mentioned the increase in diesel powered ones .
There is also the question of training mechanics to work on the electric vehicles ? It seems as though this hasn't been properly addressed yet, there seems to some private companies involved in the training but it seems to be very limited .

 

[Illaveago]

They wouldn't but, kids are much more computer savvy than us and with each generation, they'll work out how to get into the cars locked parameters and up the speed and acceleration off the scale, electronic tuning without getting dirty is what they'll be up to

I was thinking more about their sound systems pumping out watts of sound .

 

[DRM]

I was thinking more about their sound systems pumping out watts of sound .

They'll suss that out too, there's always been a market for aftermarket car bits of all types

 

[DRM]

Nobody seems to have addressed the revenues that the government is going to lose out on as more electric vehicles become more common . It is fine at the moment running tax free and cheap electric bit as revenues drop they will have to be replaced by something . Will domestic use be taxed more as we are at the moment for the change to renewable energy ? Filling stations may be converted into charging stations but they will want to charge people for the time they are using the charging points . Filling a fuel tank takes less time than charging so more customers could have used that space in the same time .
Diesel fuel will still have to be made as not all of the rail network has been electrified, the majority of busses still run on it and many are old vehicles passed down from other areas . There have also been an increase of small generating plants built which run on diesel . They may say that coal fired power stations are declining but they haven't mentioned the increase in diesel powered ones .
There is also the question of training mechanics to work on the electric vehicles ? It seems as though this hasn't been properly addressed yet, there seems to some private companies involved in the training but it seems to be very limited .

I've pointed it out loads of times, about the loss of revenue from taxation, but as well as the other things, how will our armed forces fight wars, will they all stop at a pre arranged time to recharge their vehicle batteries?
As for training mechanics, it'll happen naturally, but hopefully wages will increase, and conditions will start to improve in the materials handling industry in order to keep staff, as there's already huge amounts of mechanics trained on electric & i/c vehicles ready to go, who are, quite frankly sick of being treated like cr*p.

 

[Illaveago]

I've pointed it out loads of times, about the loss of revenue from taxation, but as well as the other things, how will our armed forces fight wars, will they all stop at a pre arranged time to recharge their vehicle batteries?
As for training mechanics, it'll happen naturally, but hopefully wages will increase, and conditions will start to improve in the materials handling industry in order to keep staff, as there's already huge amounts of mechanics trained on electric & i/c vehicles ready to go, who are, quite frankly sick of being treated like cr*p.

I was in the motor industry for most of my working life . Bodywork . What I found over the years is that information gradually trickles down . The Manufacturers release things before informing people at the coal face . Basecoat and clear was on cars before it was acknowledged and so were high strength steels .

 

[DRM]

I was in the motor industry for most of my working life . Bodywork . What I found over the years is that information gradually trickles down . The Manufacturers release things before informing people at the coal face . Basecoat and clear was on cars before it was acknowledged and so were high strength steels .

Yes it does, new fork trucks are designed and sold, you might get training on it 2 years after it's released, as for other manufacturers kit, well the engineers all speak to each other and will help each other out.

 

[Alex321]

My 2018 Nissan Leaf made a futuristic sound below 20mph. I think the Leafs have done this way before any concern.

What ever happened to taking personal responsibility? You know, when we were taught as kids to look and listen twice before crossing roads.

Every other f****r these days just needs to blame somebody/something else for their own ineptitude

And how many blind people can look?

That is the whole point of this thing about them making noise.

 

[CXRAndy]

And how many blind people can look?

That is the whole point of this thing about them making noise.

But they generally have the best enhanced hearing. A known physical phenomenon when a person is devoid of one/more of the five sensory inputs.

I've not seen many unaided blind people wandering the streets, bashing into those silent lamp-posts

 

[cougie uk]

I've pointed it out loads of times, about the loss of revenue from taxation, but as well as the other things, how will our armed forces fight wars, will they all stop at a pre arranged time to recharge their vehicle batteries?
As for training mechanics, it'll happen naturally, but hopefully wages will increase, and conditions will start to improve in the materials handling industry in order to keep staff, as there's already huge amounts of mechanics trained on electric & i/c vehicles ready to go, who are, quite frankly sick of being treated like cr*p.

Hang on not being able to go to war because we have electric cars seems to be a plus...

 

[DRM]

Hang on not being able to go to war because we have electric cars seems to be a plus...

Not if we can’t defend the UK, as all our fighting vehicles are charging up!

 

[Alex321]

I've pointed it out loads of times, about the loss of revenue from taxation, but as well as the other things, how will our armed forces fight wars, will they all stop at a pre arranged time to recharge their vehicle batteries?

Why would they need to?

Most armed forces vehicles run on diesel, and are likely to continue doing so for many years.

They aren't going to have electric tanks in main army use until there have been sufficient improvements in the technology that their downtime will be little more than current diesel powered ones.