Are we being forced to go electric?
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Tesla like others engineering don't standstill if they want to survive and thrive. This is probably very true with Tesla which are renowned for adding new ideas and equipment to their cars.
Their OTA concept is still way ahead of any other manufacturers. Tesla add improved parts throughout the year, when other makers wait a few years a release a refreshed model.
Andy in Germany
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And as your picture demonstrates, bikes have the advantage that when poperly mainteined, they'll still be running smoothly in ten years. We occasionally get a used carbon bike for sale.
Alex321
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Most modern cars will still be running smoothly in 10 years as well.
Andy in Germany
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Ten maybe, if the software doesn't crash, and they'll have cost several times their buying price in running cost in those ten years too.
Still the standard across most big buildings inc mine. There was talk of a huge UPS system in one of our units down south . However it could not take the load of full running factory .
We have a UPs system in our server room but it’s designed to only allow a controlled shut down not keep it afloat till power comes back on ! Which was a big issue about 20yr ago with all the building going on around about the industrial estate !
cougie uk
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You'd be better off saying - where are Cube now eh ten years later ?
Oh they've carried on with development and now they too have state of the art race bikes.
Alex321
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That isn't really a good example, as Focus are still making bikes that UCI elite teams use, at least up until last year (no world tour teams on them this year, but I think still some continental level teams are)
This is some prediction, but some vehicle analysts are saying Tesla will out gross Ford and GM by 2025/6
fossyant
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I think this is true of many (most) things you can buy now. The manufacturers simply don't want them to last a long time.
Electric cars are full of proprietary stuff and it is not in their interests for them to make access to that straightforward. Partly this is liability (Tesla batteries can certainly be dangerous), but really the truth is they will want you to buy a new one. This isn't particular to Tesla of course - I used to own a Romahome (Citroen C15) - towards the end of my tenure it was becoming much harder to find bits to repair it. I know the next owner really struggled to find an RHD headlight for it which is what it failed its MOT for after I sold it to her.
Governments are trying to do right of repair, but it is really pretty halfhearted. And they want you to buy stuff anyway. They want a growing economy, as stupid as that is.
Are you on sales commission ?
I should have been. Regret not buying shares back in the early days. Put money elsewhere- which may or may not pay out big next year.
Andy in Germany
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I think this is a large part of the motivation behind Ebikes: manufacturers have realised they can make more specialised parts and force people to buy new bikes when the batteries stop working, whereas non E-bikes can be repaired indefinitely.
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If you buy proprietary kit. I bought for e-bikes parts which dont have special software ot be able ot use a different battery.
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