roubaixtuesday
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Well, there's the end of air pollution from vehicles. But other than that, what have EVs done for us [series to run....]
Are we being forced to go electric?
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Well, there's the end of air pollution from vehicles. But other than that, what have EVs done for us [series to run....]
Tail pipe emissions for EVs of course are clean , however hydrogen might be even cleaner still if using renewables ?! All to play for
cougie uk
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So why aren't the auto industry churning out dozens of models of hydrogen cars ??
Range is not an issue for the vast majority of users. How far is your commute ?
cougie uk
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How can hydrogen be cleaner ? It uses lots more energy than electric. You use energy to go to the garage to refuel. What transports the gas around the country ? Tankers presumably ?Tail pipe emissions for EVs of course are clean , however hydrogen might be even cleaner still if using renewables ?! All to play for
ICE cars are limited due to range. Mine will only do about 400 miles on a full tank. I'm anxious. I have to drive around looking for these things called petrol stations. My car doesn't even tell me where they are!!
Luckily soon I'll be getting an EV that does close to 300 miles in range, is always full every morning that I am at home, and tells me where the nearest charger is. Plus I'm not riding round on a huge amount of explosive liquid and I'm not emitting harmful gasses.
Can't wait!
classic33
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The stations/filling points are there. Not many, but they do exist.
https://www.drivingelectric.com/hyd...-where-is-my-nearest-hydrogen-filling-station
Yep not many yet for sure !
Illaveago
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How do you get your electricity ? Not all is green . Some are nuclear , some are diesel powered , some are even made from burning waste . There are waste disposal power generating sites being built in this area to get rid of waste generated in London ! All of the contractor vehicles are burning fossil fuels . How does the waste get to those sites? Most likely by an internal combustion engines vehicle !
So lets compare...
https://www.zap-map.com/statistics/
There are now 29,000 devices in 18000 locations.
Now hydrogen. I couldn't find anything about growth. I did find this article from 2021 which states there are 14 places to refuel on hydrogen, all in the South of England.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/why-more-uk-drivers-could-soon-be-choosing-hydrogen-powered-cars/n23385
Of course there are now over 1000 hydrogen powered cars across Europe, where as 800,000 electric vehicles were registered in the last year alone.
So - who is betting on Hydrogen here? I'm thinking it's the betamax of cars...
classic33
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And you fill up in a similar manner to petrol or diesel.
There's a few manufacturers with hydrogen power on the drawing board.
classic33
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If hydrogen is the betamax, are electric cars the VHS2000?
Plenty poured into them, but where did it go?
A similar point was made about electric powered vehicles, years ago. Lack of charging points, against the ease of filling a petrol tank.
Cost is high for sure but so were EVs comparatively in the early days. Put it this way fuel cells have not gone away from what I can see on the net.
You have sh..t car if it doesn’t even guide you to a fuel station
. Even my old bus can do that It either does 300 miles or it doesn’t !
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I expect the range will vary according to how you drive it, headwinds, hills, weather etc. Just like any other car...
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