Are we being forced to go electric?
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You don't need the Tesla 'app' to 'drive' the car. Infact relying on the 'app' which required internet connectivity to start/drive the car is simply a bit silly, how would you get into the car if you lost internet connectivity to the car??
Pretty much every Tesla owner has either a key or key card or phone-key (which is different from the app).
I think its good that Tesla allows you 'drive' the car via the App, essentially in theory you can drive/start any Tesla just by downloading the App and knowing the owners login details, however relying on it day to day is like leaving your locked house without a key and counting on your neighbour been in with a spare key when you get home.
This is the app function that went down a short period in the article you linked.....So right now if you can guess my Tesla login/password you can find my car (because the car reports its locations), unlock it, and 'remote start' to drive it away. As I've said, Tesla's software integration is beyond what anyone else can do right now and by a fair margin.
What more amazing is if you take the car in to a Tesla dealer, the dealers can do the same but WITHOUT needing your password/login!! No need to give the dealer the key card either, these cars are constant reporting back to the main Tesla network. If you like to wear tin hats you might want to consider the implications of this level of 'connectivity'.
Bare in mind the back ground software needed to 'summon' the car remotely to your location from any where is already written. If/when 'autonomy' is achieved these cars already have the pre-requisite software base to move from A to B without any human physical interaction! Bash Tesla on any other areas, but software is what differentiates Tesla from everyone else that make cars.
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classic33
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The full self drive is optional, at cost, and requires a monthly subscription to use.
Tesla have been promising self driving cars for a while now.
potsy
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Got to admit the lack of traditional dials and nobs puts me off too..I know what's important to me when choosing a car over say a mobile phone! My car still has a CD player, no built in sat nav and proper dials and knobs
Unlike you I actually do like the look of the VW id3, but the gimmicky controls and touch/swipe style dashboard controls really doesn't appeal..
I have a 3 year old petrol car and have no real need for change, will be 2 or 3 years before I consider replacing it, and even then it might only be for another more economical petrol/diesel..
Ofcourse, but you still need the ability to put in the software backbone that can enable things such as remote start etc.
As far as I know no other car manufacturer is even close interms of this level of software integration/connectivity.
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All the big SUV's squeezing walkers and cyclists into the hedgerows on our skinny local lanes have knobs in too. 😁I know what's important to me when choosing a car over say a mobile phone! My car still has a CD player, no built in sat nav and proper dials and knobs
midlife
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I didn't think Tesla had a fully autonomous vehicle, just their version of it's "Autopilot" ?
classic33
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They don't. It's "driver assistance" which still requires a driver behind the wheel.
It's part of a larger package, but the main selling point. Even if it can't be used.
cougie uk
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I pay for a renewable electric tariff. Some people even charge off their own solar panels.Erm, leccy car drivers just throw the fumes out via the power station. Get a bike !
Nope. Sorry - you'll need to try harder. That was an app issue affecting a relatively small number of users where Tesla drivers couldn't unlock / start their cars with their smartphones. They had to use the key-fob instead. Hardly undriveable. Slightly problematic for people away from home without their keyfob, and a lesson in over reliance on their smartphone.
They have a car with the potential to be fully autonomous. Their FSD chip is a fully AI driven and years ahead of any of its rivals.
Unfortunately it can only be used fully in the USA at the moment.
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