Thanks. We can't run to that sort of price but there's a Peugeot Partner TP that looks as though it might work for us.
Are we being forced to go electric?
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Cool. That's where the Govt could really help by taking a leaf out of Norway's book and providing incentives - drop VAT on EVs for example. That would make the baseline ID4 28k instead of 34k and the ID4 family 37k instead of 44k.
Is that a second hand Partner Teepee? I can't see that they are making them any more? I'm getting the e-2008, e3008 or e-Rifter?
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We can only afford 2nd hand. If it wasn't for the fact that the grant is more then our current car is worth, I'm not sure we'd even be looking at it.
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Ah, the perils of commenting on a headline. It never gives enough info.
Yesterday, I got two of my three, Zappi 22kW chargers connected. I was drawing 18kW simultaneously, max draw will be 34kW when all vehicles are charging from a low point. That's most never likely, but possible. 
Speaking with electrician about his imminent 11kW solar array install. I think I'll follow up and see what pit falls he has, if any and get a similar setup-probably slightly larger 😄
Speaking with electrician about his imminent 11kW solar array install. I think I'll follow up and see what pit falls he has, if any and get a similar setup-probably slightly larger 😄
Just had my Zappi installed. Only another 7 months until I have a car to plug into it!!Yesterday, I got two of my three, Zappi 22kW chargers connected. I was drawing 18kW simultaneously, max draw will be 34kW when all vehicles are charging from a low point. That's most never likely, but possible.
Speaking with electrician about his imminent 11kW solar array install. I think I'll follow up and see what pit falls he has, if any and get a similar setup-probably slightly larger 😄
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You'll struggle to get a bigger one unless you have a mansion house.
We have a fairly large 4 bed house with a double garage, and had the whole of the rear roof of both house & garage fitted with solar panels last month, which is a 10.14 KW system.
Today we generated 55.1KwH.
I will be trying to get 50kW minimum. I have 3 phase with 100 Amp per phase. in fact our new place has 3 meters all 3 phase.
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It isn't your current supply that matters, it is how much space you have for the array of PV panels.
50kW will need much more space than any normal house will have on the roof.
We have large 5 bed south facing roof, perfect for panels but I think I’d need batteries as well ! Bro in law told me he did quotation online £12k for 7Kw ? That seems quite expensive.
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We just paid around £20K for a 10.14kW system with a 16kWh battery.
So that sounds about right.
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Do any of you EV drivers think these cars have no soul or character?
I mean, opening the bonnet of a big engined motor or listening to the growl of a powerful car is surely important?
The power delivery of certain engine configurations for example being different to others etc.
If cars are just an AtoB experience to people then I guess go for the greenest thing out there but I personally think the day the only vehicles available are electric will be a sad one.
We haven't even mentioned Motorcycles!
I mean, opening the bonnet of a big engined motor or listening to the growl of a powerful car is surely important?
The power delivery of certain engine configurations for example being different to others etc.
If cars are just an AtoB experience to people then I guess go for the greenest thing out there but I personally think the day the only vehicles available are electric will be a sad one.
We haven't even mentioned Motorcycles!
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I haven't ever owned or driven an EV yet, but probably will in the future.
But I have never felt the sound of the engine to be in the slightest bit important, nor have I ever felt a car has any "soul". Character, maybe, but that hasn't been dependent on the engine.
I know there are plenty of people around who feel more as you do, but I think for the majority of drivers, the car is mainly just a tool for getting from A to B while carrying x.
It is to some people. I imagine for most it's not a consideration. I've never opened the bonnet of my Renault Scenic to have a listen.
If I owned a Ferrari or a Lamborgini, it might be a different matter. To be honest, whenever I hear the roar of an engine around here I tend to think rude and negative thoughts about the small nether regions attached to the person revving their engines or driving their backfiring idiot-mobile, or deliberately unsilenced crap motorbike.
I think there will always be a certain number of petrol vehicles, but they will very much be a novelty and expensive to run. A bit like when you see the vintage cars heading to Brooklands.
As for motorbikes, how about an electric Harley? 146 miles range, 0-60 in 3 seconds..., 0-80 in 5, 0-110 in 11.2 secs.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/gb/en/motorcycles/2021/livewire.html
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