Are we being forced to go electric?

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Alex321

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I thought this was set by HMRC? 45p/mile regardless of fuel type for the first 10,000 miles and 25p/mile after that.

No, that is just the maximum that can be claimed without being subject to tax.

There is no statutory amount which employers have to give.
 
The green agenda at work has slashed it. I’d need to go dig out the email . However it’s grim even for EVs.

Really not good for many who are reliant on using their own cars for their employers business needs. The Care Industry in particular are struggling with recruitment and retention as the costs for carers to travel between clients is outweighing the remuneration.
I'm in the fortunate position of mainly working from home these days.
 
Really not good for many who are reliant on using their own cars for their employers business needs. The Care Industry in particular are struggling with recruitment and retention as the costs for carers to travel between clients is outweighing the remuneration.
I'm in the fortunate position of mainly working from home these days.

I see a lot of very nice cars used by carers ? Some kind of leasing agreement ?
 

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Really not good for many who are reliant on using their own cars for their employers business needs. The Care Industry in particular are struggling with recruitment and retention as the costs for carers to travel between clients is outweighing the remuneration.
I'm in the fortunate position of mainly working from home these days.

Indeed , its only going to get worse as costs increase. Energy costs, food , fearful for the Autumn/Winter with the vulnerable .
 
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Really not good for many who are reliant on using their own cars for their employers business needs. The Care Industry in particular are struggling with recruitment and retention as the costs for carers to travel between clients is outweighing the remuneration.
I'm in the fortunate position of mainly working from home these days.
Yes my daughter only gets 27p per mile between clients, the cynic in me believes the employer is claiming the full 46p & not passing it on. It really is a shitty industry, she often has to be at the first call at 7am & doesn't leave the last one until 21:30 then gets paid 8 hours, it would not be accepted in any other industry, it's not like they don't charge ridiculous amounts to the patients.
I see a lot of very nice cars used by carers ? Some kind of leasing agreement ?
I think the issue is they need a reliable car, this unfortunately provide them it

I get sidetracked, what I came here to put was son works for a company delivering medical equipment, they have just taken delivery of a couple of Mercedes Sprinters EV's the first was delivered left over the weekend then had to be dragged back onto the low loader as the battery had gone flat & they were not able to get into it. He's gone out in the replacement today, it was 100% charged when he got in it, he did 3.5 miles & it's now showing 90% :laugh:

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His average milage is 110 a day, if I read that right it says he's only got 75 miles left & that's in economy mode.
 
Yes my daughter only gets 27p per mile between clients, the cynic in me believes the employer is claiming the full 46p & not passing it on. It really is a shitty industry, she often has to be at the first call at 7am & doesn't leave the last one until 21:30 then gets paid 8 hours, it would not be accepted in any other industry, it's not like they don't charge ridiculous amounts to the patients.

I think the issue is they need a reliable car, this unfortunately provide them it

I get sidetracked, what I came here to put was son works for a company delivering medical equipment, they have just taken delivery of a couple of Mercedes Sprinters EV's the first was delivered left over the weekend then had to be dragged back onto the low loader as the battery had gone flat & they were not able to get into it. He's gone out in the replacement today, it was 100% charged when he got in it, he did 3.5 miles & it's now showing 90% :laugh:

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His average milage is 110 a day, if I read that right it says he's only got 75 miles left & that's in economy mode.

Amazon have been using electric vans for a few years now - I think they are Mercedes so I wonder what your son's company is doing to their fleet ?
 

CXRAndy

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Yes my daughter only gets 27p per mile between clients, the cynic in me believes the employer is claiming the full 46p & not passing it on. It really is a shitty industry, she often has to be at the first call at 7am & doesn't leave the last one until 21:30 then gets paid 8 hours, it would not be accepted in any other industry, it's not like they don't charge ridiculous amounts to the patients.

I think the issue is they need a reliable car, this unfortunately provide them it

I get sidetracked, what I came here to put was son works for a company delivering medical equipment, they have just taken delivery of a couple of Mercedes Sprinters EV's the first was delivered left over the weekend then had to be dragged back onto the low loader as the battery had gone flat & they were not able to get into it. He's gone out in the replacement today, it was 100% charged when he got in it, he did 3.5 miles & it's now showing 90% :laugh:

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His average milage is 110 a day, if I read that right it says he's only got 75 miles left & that's in economy mode.

Some manufacturers have very poor range o meters. Nissan's famously was called guessometer. Tesla are far the best for accuracy.

Now it looks on the face of it your son's company has not done their research on vehicle capabilities for range. If your son is doing 110 most days and the Merc E Sprinter is returning 75-90 miles. There will be a charging stop required. Not a problem if the delivery schedule is not filled each and every day.

The Ford Transit would have been a better choice with around 160 miles genuine range.
 
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Amazon have been using electric vans for a few years now - I think they are Mercedes so I wonder what your son's company is doing to their fleet ?
No idea as far as I know they are just charging & using, looks like it's only done 272 miles from new
The Ford Transit would have been a better choice with around 160 miles genuine range.
No idea again, they are a National company so maybe it works in other depots where the mileage isn't as high, but agreed maybe it's just bad research, or maybe Mercedes are giving better discounts, so the fact they won't do the work was ignored.
 
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That could well be the case.

Accounting has overlooked or overruled procurement department. Or there are loyalties to certain brands blinding practicalities

They do normally drive Sprinters so maybe it's part of an existing deal, not sure if they are permanent or on trial, but they have fitted chargers in the yard, although they have 9 vans & only space to charge 2 vans, son normally takes his home as he's on call, but he has no facility to charge it as it's on street parking
 

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Amazon have been using electric vans for a few years now - I think they are Mercedes so I wonder what your son's company is doing to their fleet ?

Range depends on driving technique to a great extent. Lifting early and regenerating as you coast up to a stop adds many a mile to range. Drive it so you are either using the throttle or the brake and never coasting will eat range.
 
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Range depends on driving technique to a great extent. Lifting early and regenerating as you coast up to a stop adds many a mile to range. Drive it so you are either using the throttle or the brake and never coasting will eat range.

Boss who lives in the US is currently over here he has a couple of EV's & was saying exactly that, his aim to only ever drive with 1 pedal
 
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