Are we being forced to go electric?

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Alex321

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Yes my daughter only gets 27p per mile between clients, the cynic in me believes the employer is claiming the full 46p & not passing it on.
I don't think you understand how this works.

There is no "full 46p" to claim and not pass on.

The employer can pay whatever mileage allowance they like.

The employee can claim up to 45p/mile for the first 10,000 miles in a year, then 25p/mile after that without it being subject to tax. So long as the amount is within those limits, it doesn't even have to be declared on the tax forms. If it goes beyond those limits, it has to be declared, and you will be taxed at your highest marginal rate on the "excess".
 

CXRAndy

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Boss who lives in the US is currently over here he has a couple of EV's & was saying exactly that, his aim to only ever drive with 1 pedal

Having driven EVs for 4 years now, it is so alien to have to apply the brakes to slow down a car.
 
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I don't think you understand how this works.
I suspect you are correct, when I used to work for a very large national company, on the rare occasions I used my own vehicle they paid me the highest HMRC rate available. When I was self employed I just advised the accountant of the mileage, the servicing costs & handed over the receipts for fuel I have no idea what e did with the information.

But in this instance 'she' the employer has told the staff not worry about the mileage, she calculates the distance between the calls then pays them 27p as stated I would not be surprised if 'she' was not then submitting a claim on each employees behalf claiming the mileage from the HMRC & not passing the actual amount on, I trust her as far as I could throw Geoff Capes, she was a nice person until she worked out how much money she could make out of this caper.
 

Alex321

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I suspect you are correct, when I used to work for a very large national company, on the rare occasions I used my own vehicle they paid me the highest HMRC rate available. When I was self employed I just advised the accountant of the mileage, the servicing costs & handed over the receipts for fuel I have no idea what e did with the information.

But in this instance 'she' the employer has told the staff not worry about the mileage, she calculates the distance between the calls then pays them 27p as stated I would not be surprised if 'she' was not then submitting a claim on each employees behalf claiming the mileage from the HMRC & not passing the actual amount on, I trust her as far as I could throw Geoff Capes, she was a nice person until she worked out how much money she could make out of this caper.

HMRC don't pay you anything. There is nothing she can "claim and then not pass on".

HMRC don't even need to be told about any mileage payments that are less than or equal to the 45p/25p per mile. No claim is made. The employer simply cannot make any money out of paying one rate but claiming another.
 

MrGrumpy

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Range depends on driving technique to a great extent. Lifting early and regenerating as you coast up to a stop adds many a mile to range. Drive it so you are either using the throttle or the brake and never coasting will eat range.

Got stuck behind one of those !! Was rather annoying . Ended up having to go round them .
 
Perfect for nipping down to the shops. If the shop is on top of a hill accessed by an unrestricted speed road.
Or if you're Batman.
 
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Perfect for nipping down to the shops. If the shop is on top of a hill accessed by an unrestricted speed road.
Or if you're Batman.

They claim or at least the driver was suggesting you would be able to live in London with it, drive up to Silverstone spend a day howling around the track, then charge it up for the journey back, seems a little optimistic to me, but who knows.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTgL8_1GDI0
 

icowden

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Surrey
The Gov' subsidies only made sense as a kivkstart measure to boost initial uptake of EV's.
To continue them is absurd - someone in the £50-150k car purchasing ballpark hardly needs subsidising imo.
I agree to a point. There was a subsidy for EVs under £35,000. What the subsidy failed to do though was look at the price of EVs. If a family sized EV costs £40k-£50k , you need the subsidy to bring that cost down so that families can afford to go electric. That's the point of the subsidy. I don't think anyone is suggesting that we subsidise people buying a brand new Tesla S or X.

Norway did this very effectively whilst also putting a 25% tax on ICE cars to make EVs more appealing. It's cheaper to buy an EV than an ICE in Norway. End of.
 
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