Are we being forced to go electric?

[CXRAndy]

One of my checks when I was considering going electric was about distance and whether it was important. I worked out that in a given year:

• Multiple trips to the new forest to visit the in-laws - 83 miles.
• A couple of trips to Worcester to see my mum - 120 miles
• Possibly a trip to the Isle of Wight - 78 miles.

Other than that all trips probably less than 10 miles(School runs, shopping etc).

Any long driving trip is going to be an exception, not the rule. It's possible that one year we might drive to France and go skiing, travelling the best part of 700 miles. It's unlikely though. The longest journey we have ever done was to the Lake district, 311 miles. But we stayed at my mum's on the way up and at Alton Towers on the way back. The Towers *still* doesn't have any chargers, so we would probably have had to do at least one rapid charge on the motorway. BUt again it's an exception and just needs a little planning.

The ID4 is going to have plenty of range for me. I can trickle some charge at the in-laws from a 240v plug, or drive 15 minutes up to Lymington for a rapid charge. At my mum's there's plenty of charging points in Worcester (probably not there long enough to warrant a trickle charge).

The Isle of Wight is probably the trickiest as not many charging points and a lot of the ones that are there don't work!

We stayed on a campsite with our Model S. I trickle charged it to 95% whilst we cycled and walked around the New Forest. I noted there weren't many convenient charge places on the IOW, so having plenty of range from the campsite to go down and visit all the places was easy.

 

[gzoom]

Just got back from the first foreign holiday since COVID. Our 5 year + old Tesla held up very well compared to a brand new larger battery ID4, travel times very pretty much identical in convoy.

All the kids were just wanted to ride in the X, and absolutely zero issue with public charging in the UK or France for either the Tesla or the ID4.

This trip only totalled 750miles, cost of fuel was £25 spends on public charging in France and me trying out a none Tesla charger in the UK. The trip is a preparation for Norway in a few weeks....We'll be covering 780 miles in the first 24hrs of that trip!! Cannot wait.

 

[icowden]

All the kids were just wanted to ride in the X, and absolutely zero issue with public charging in the UK or France for either the Tesla or the ID4.

Can you blame them? I mean the X is just cool. Those doors! Double the price of the ID4 though :-(

 

[icowden]

More winning from the Government:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61795693

 

[MrGrumpy]

More winning from the Government:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61795693

The price needs to come down . However it’s not exactly going to do the shift to EV much good. I believe also the charger grant is gone as well .

 

[vickster]

More winning from the Government:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61795693

Winning?

 

[CXRAndy]

The sales of EVs battery only has really taken off in the UK.

There are 480,000 BEV and 390k plug in hybrids.

Hybrids sales are falling, whilst BEV is still showing very big year on year growth.

 

[icowden]

Hybrids sales are falling, whilst BEV is still showing very big year on year growth.

It's all the people who listened to the Government and bought Diesels now frantically trying to get rid of them!

 

[Electric_Andy]

It's all the people who listened to the Government and bought Diesels now frantically trying to get rid of them!

Not sure about that. It's common to see 2.0L Diesel VW's with 120k on the clock with dealers asking 6k

 

[fossyant]

Winning?

Subsidising wealthy people to buy a leccy car. I'm not paying those prices for a boring tin box.

 

[fossyant]

Can you blame them? I mean the X is just cool. Those doors! Double the price of the ID4 though :-(

Specsavers !

 

[classic33]

Sales of new electric vehicles was down by 8.7%, to the end of May, compared to the same period last year.

 

[fossyant]

Sales - defined by low crazy low BIK for company car leases etc - that's how the Gov't sold deisels to all company car drivers with the low CO2 tax, us petrol lot got hit. I don't regret the 2.5 V6 Vectra or the Alfa 147 2.0 Selespeed - very fun cars, but lots of issues. Went sensibe and got Nissan.

Sales are being driven by the company car lot and the crazy BIK on £70k leccy 'trucks' - they aren't cars...

 

[CXRAndy]

Sales of new electric vehicles was down by 8.7%, to the end of May, compared to the same period last year.

Overall sales continue to be very strong year on year.

ICE vehicles are seeing drop off in new sales, especially diesel. Also petrol seeing big decline

 

[MrGrumpy]

Sales - defined by low crazy low BIK for company car leases etc - that's how the Gov't sold deisels to all company car drivers with the low CO2 tax, us petrol lot got hit. I don't regret the 2.5 V6 Vectra or the Alfa 147 2.0 Selespeed - very fun cars, but lots of issues. Went sensibe and got Nissan.

Sales are being driven by the company car lot and the crazy BIK on £70k leccy 'trucks' - they aren't cars...

Certainly our company now only allow EVs. Company car users are having to ditch their diesel or petrol motors . Mileage as well is being hammered , so for us whom use our own cars for business trips , the mileage claim is vastly reduced.