Are we being forced to go electric?

[Biker man]

In a few years, everybody.

Because there won't be anything else available.

I still think hydrogen will come through if everyone gets a electric car I don't think the National grid would cope with every one charging up

In a few years, everybody.

Because there won't be anything else available.

 

[MrGrumpy]

I still think hydrogen will come through if everyone gets a electric car I don't think the National grid would cope with every one charging up

Apparently it takes a lot of energy to produce. JCB are apparently working on this , read about in here somewhere. Have to think that hydrogen will be used in HGVs etc . Going to be an awful lot of lorries sitting recharging, however I’m sure the boffins will be looking at as we speak !

 

[Oldhippy]

Or we could all just use cars less, buy locally, transport more by rail and campaign seriously for better public transport.

 

[Alex321]

I still think hydrogen will come through if everyone gets a electric car I don't think the National grid would cope with every one charging up

I doubt hydrogen will ever become commonplace for private cars. It may do for goods vehicles and PSVs.

I'm not sure the National Grid as it is now would cope, but it will be at least 15 years before almost everybody is driving electric cars.

You have to remember, EVs at the moment are still a fairly niche product. As they become more mainstream over the next few years, things will change to handle them.

 

[figbat]

Might this go some way to alleviating the "not everybody has offroad parking" conundrum? Or the principle of it at least. I think it's a neat (although not new) idea and whilst it has some challenges (it's no doubt heavy, expensive and introduces another efficiency loss in the power supply chain) it does at least improve operating flexibility.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Might this go some way to alleviating the "not everybody has offroad parking" conundrum? Or the principle of it at least. I think it's a neat (although not new) idea and whilst it has some challenges (it's no doubt heavy, expensive and introduces another efficiency loss in the power supply chain) it does at least improve operating flexibility.

May do thats assuming nobody steals your charger .

 

[cougie uk]

I still think hydrogen will come through if everyone gets a electric car I don't think the National grid would cope with every one charging up

You use less electricity per mile in an EV than you do using the electric to make hydrogen to put into a car.

Plus why would I queue for hydrogen when I can start each day off with a full tank of electric?

Toyota have bet on hydrogen and it's going to be a huge mistake for them I think.

 

[CXRAndy]

Propaganda ?? Conspiracy theories more like . The point being made on CH4 last night is it’s about time they got their finger out and sorted the charger networks out. If the gov want wide spread uptake of EV vehicles.

All new builds from next year are now required to install 7kW charging. I've agreed to add a charger to my newbuild sale.

 

[CXRAndy]

Absolutely zero at tail pipe , well they don’t have one ! However everything else with them has a huge environmental cost .

Would you like to give us EV converts a breakdown of in terms of CO2, and other pollutants from oil exploration, extraction, transportation, refining, storage, transportation of refined fuels to fuel stations and subsequent emissions per ICE vehicle whilst moving around?

 

[Baldy]

Or we could all just use cars less, buy locally, transport more by rail and campaign seriously for better public transport.

Rail freight is already struggling with the volume of stuff being sent on it. Before you can transport more by rail you'll need to rebuild your rail network.

 

[FishFright]

Absolutely zero at tail pipe , well they don’t have one ! However everything else with them has a huge environmental cost .

Unlike ICE vehicles where every part is simply wished into existence without any environmental consequence....

 

[CXRAndy]

PCP or lease , after all that’s what most folk are doing these days . Not many have £90k to splash down on a Tesla .

way off the mark best selling Tesla

 

[CXRAndy]

Apparently it takes a lot of energy to produce. JCB are apparently working on this , read about in here somewhere. Have to think that hydrogen will be used in HGVs etc . Going to be an awful lot of lorries sitting recharging, however I’m sure the boffins will be looking at as we speak !

Talking of electrifying the main arterial routes to charge trucks whilst driving

 

[CXRAndy]

but it will be at least 15 years before almost everybody is driving electric cars.

There is a tipping point, snowball effect, whatever metaphor you care to use, when suddenly the transition to a new system has taken over. Just go and look at the EV take over the last 5 years. This is the change this year, you can see percentage wise EVs are making huge gains at the expense of ICE

 

[Biker man]

You use less electricity per mile in an EV than you do using the electric to make hydrogen to put into a car.

Plus why would I queue for hydrogen when I can start each day off with a full tank of electric?

Toyota have bet on hydrogen and it's going to be a huge mistake for them I think.

Don't think so.