Are we being forced to go electric?

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vickster

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Didn't some Tesla taxis just get banned in Paris after an accident? Can't recall the details...here...not shown that it was in self-drive mode but not good nonetheless in a crowded city which is where we need to get people out of cars first
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59647069
Autopiliot crashes also being investigated in US
 

Alex321

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Still doesn't bode well. The thought of an automated car on crowded roads sounds like a utopian nightmare to me :wacko:
It is going to happen though. Pretty well inevitable now.

And I think that timeline above is also probably fairly realistic, though remember, that half a million vehicles is worldwide - and most will initially probably be in the USA, particularly the robo-taxis.
 

fossyant

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It is going to happen though. Pretty well inevitable now.

And I think that timeline above is also probably fairly realistic, though remember, that half a million vehicles is worldwide - and most will initially probably be in the USA, particularly the robo-taxis.

It's not though. Technology aside, legally it won't, certainly not in the UK.

Who is responsible for injuring another road user ? Computers can't be programmed to deal with every eventuality.
 

fossyant

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I don't think there is any realistic chance of it NOT happening.

You or I, and I doubt my children will see robo-cars replacing everything. Sorry, humans are selfish, we'll be tearing round in our 2000HP equivalent Teslas rather than get a robo car, or, god forbid, walk. :laugh: Don't even mention pedaling a bike.
 

vickster

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The cab firms? They'd need enormous levels of 3rd party indemnity (which probably only Elon Musk could afford :whistle:)
 

Alex321

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You or I, and I doubt my children will see robo-cars replacing everything. Sorry, humans are selfish, we'll be tearing round in our 2000HP equivalent Teslas rather than get a robo car, or, god forbid, walk. :laugh: Don't even mention pedaling a bike.
It will certainly take time - and quite a lot of it.

And yes, I very much doubt it will be entirely robo-cars in our lifetimes (depending on how old you are :whistle: ).

But legal in many places within the next few years, I think WILL happen. Significant numbers, particularly in things like taxis, within the next 10 years or so, not certain, but I don't think unrealistic.

I think by the time the 22nd century rolls around, it is not unrealistic to be mainly, and even possibly entirely robo-cars. It wouldn't surprise me to see laws brought in requiring cars to be automated in large urban areas. Whether that will happen in my lifetime is more doubtful.
 

Alex321

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The cab firms? They'd need enormous levels of 3rd party indemnity (which probably only Elon Musk could afford :whistle:)
Why would they need any higher levels than they do now?

By the time these things are legally allowed in general use, they will have undergone very vigorous testing to ensure hey are at least as safe as human drivers, and probably more so.

While it is true that you really can't develop computer code to cover every possible eventuality, you can build in failsafes, and they will not be susceptible to human failings such as tiredness or distraction.
 
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