Are we being forced to go electric?

[gzoom]

OK break down, as "not going" - twice as likely to 'not work'. Survey is in the press. Tesla being worse out of all leccy models. Software seems to be a big issue.

Humm.......You might want to check 'facts' on that survey. Tesla actually doesn't have great mechanical reliability as the initial engineering of some suspension parts are now on version 5-6 (the latest versions are actually very reliable).

Software is where Tesla is heads and shoulders above everyone else, want to depress your self watching the latest news on the BBC whilst waiting for after school club to finish, why not?

Want to see how much £ you have spent on charging the last over the last month from the phone app....why not.

Karaoke for the passengers to keep everyone happy in the car.....again why not? There are lots of sticks you can use to beat up Tesla, but software, nope that is one area Tesla is in a totally different league.

 

[cougie uk]

Humm.......You might want to check 'facts' on that survey. Tesla actually doesn't have great mechanical reliability as the initial engineering of some suspension parts are now on version 5-6 (the latest versions are actually very reliable).

Software is where Tesla is heads and shoulders above everyone else, want to depress your self watching the latest news on the BBC whilst waiting for after school club to finish, why not?

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Want to see how much £ you have spent on charging the last over the last month from the phone app....why not.

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Karaoke for the passengers to keep everyone happy in the car.....again why not? There are lots of sticks you can use to beat up Tesla, but software, nope that is one area Tesla is in a totally different league.

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You spendthrift !

My wife would normally fill her tank each week - used to be £40 or so but that's a lot more now.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Can I presume the videos etc only play whilst parked ? Other than that I see that as a major distraction ? I can play Films through the system on my car , I’ve never ever done it ever ! Each to their own . The really good thing that I like with Tesla is the security cameras and probably the drive . The rest is gimmicky !

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Can I presume the videos etc only play whilst parked ? Other than that I see that as a major distraction ? I can play Films through the system on my car , I’ve never ever done it ever ! Each to their own . The really good thing that I like with Tesla is the security cameras and probably the drive . The rest is gimmicky !

Wnat do you think of the Tesla fart noises?

AFAIK it is in emissions testing mode and a variety of schoolboy humour noises are available.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Wnat do you think of the Tesla fart noises?

AFAIK it is in emissions testing mode and a variety of schoolboy humour noises are available.

Yes my bro in law played the fart noises and the Christmas flashy light bollocks . Anyway each to their one that fact that my boys liked it says it all !

 

[classic33]

If electric cars were to replace every car the estimated power requirements would be another six, at least, of the Hinckley Power station currently under construction.
Can we afford those extra power stations, and where will they be built?
If all vehicles, vans & lorries, were to be replaced add another three.

 

[Cerdic]

I’ve just had a little browse of that Which survey.

Not much of a surprise in it. Most faults on cars these days, irrespective of motive power, is the electronics. Tesla sell a big percentage of all electric cars sold. Tesla is American. American cars are notorious for shonky build quality!

We‘ve got Kias at work. Very high quality feel and excellent reliability, almost as good as Toyota these days.

 

[lazybloke]

Humm.......You might want to check 'facts' on that survey. Tesla actually doesn't have great mechanical reliability as the initial engineering of some suspension parts are now on version 5-6 (the latest versions are actually very reliable).

Software is where Tesla is heads and shoulders above everyone else, want to depress your self watching the latest news on the BBC whilst waiting for after school club to finish, why not?

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Want to see how much £ you have spent on charging the last over the last month from the phone app....why not.

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Karaoke for the passengers to keep everyone happy in the car.....again why not? There are lots of sticks you can use to beat up Tesla, but software, nope that is one area Tesla is in a totally different league.

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Impressive, but those are entertainment and information apps - surely irrelevant to the ability of the vehicle to drive, or to it's reliability. Likely a different computer too.

 

[icowden]

Impressive, but those are entertainment and information apps - surely irrelevant to the ability of the vehicle to drive, or to it's reliability. Likely a different computer too.

I think the Tesla computer unit is a single unit controlling the whole car. A Tesla is more akin to a smartphone with wheels than it is to a car. This is why they are vastly outselling their rivals who are still trying to fit computers into a car, rather than wheels on a smartphone.

 

[Alex321]

Humm.......You might want to check 'facts' on that survey. Tesla actually doesn't have great mechanical reliability as the initial engineering of some suspension parts are now on version 5-6 (the latest versions are actually very reliable).

Software is where Tesla is heads and shoulders above everyone else, want to depress your self watching the latest news on the BBC whilst waiting for after school club to finish, why not?

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Want to see how much £ you have spent on charging the last over the last month from the phone app....why not.

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Karaoke for the passengers to keep everyone happy in the car.....again why not? There are lots of sticks you can use to beat up Tesla, but software, nope that is one area Tesla is in a totally different league.

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None of that is the software which keeps the car going.

 

[Alex321]

Not that it really matters to me but, if you want an electric car then have one and if you don't, well don't.

Why argue the t*ss if you're not interested in owning one?

Because if we want a car at all, we will not have the choice in a few years - as per the title of the thread.

 

[icowden]

None of that is the software which keeps the car going.

It kind of is. The Tegra 3 (or Intel Atom) powered smart screen in the Tesla is fully integrated with the various processors and chipsets that control all car operations, including the incredibly powerful AI chips for Full Self Drive (if you have them fitted).

https://venturebeat.com/2019/04/22/...p-is-six-times-more-powerful-than-its-rivals/

All of the software has to work together with the hardware for the car to work. It's not just a battery and some electric motors.

 

[cougie uk]

If electric cars were to replace every car the estimated power requirements would be another six, at least, of the Hinckley Power station currently under construction.
Can we afford those extra power stations, and where will they be built?
If all vehicles, vans & lorries, were to be replaced add another three.

That's rubbish though isn't it.

Does it assume every electric car would be charging at the same time ?

Please show your sources.

 

[lazybloke]

I think the Tesla computer unit is a single unit controlling the whole car. A Tesla is more akin to a smartphone with wheels than it is to a car. This is why they are vastly outselling their rivals who are still trying to fit computers into a car, rather than wheels on a smartphone.

Fair enough about thendesign approach, but I'd rather have safety critical software running on different silicon than the blingy entertainment sh#t

 

[gzoom]

Impressive, but those are entertainment and information apps - surely irrelevant to the ability of the vehicle to drive, or to it's reliability. Likely a different computer too.

The amount of software Tesla deploy to run the cars is mind-boggling, however I've literally never heard of a 'software' issues making a Tesla 'undrivable'.

The CPUs needed for driving is 100% independent of the infotainment. You can 'reset" the infotainment computer whilst driving and all the mission critical stuff like brakes, lights, accelerator etc all still work.