Are we being forced to go electric?

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classic33

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Just about everyone has jumped onto the open NACS Tesla charging standard, FORD GM Volvo, Rivian. CCS is dead in the USA.

And at least one of those have filed paperwork for breach of contract, with the courts in America. Within the last week, following the charger paperwork being lodged in the Texas court system.

At present, Tesla have at least three current cases filed against them. All for patent infringement and/or copyright infringement. 300,000 vehicles ordered to be removed, no recall, from US roads to address build faults.
 

CXRAndy

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And at least one of those have filed paperwork for breach of contract, with the courts in America. Within the last week, following the charger paperwork being lodged in the Texas court system.

At present, Tesla have at least three current cases filed against them. All for patent infringement and/or copyright infringement. 300,000 vehicles ordered to be removed, no recall, from US roads to address build faults.

Which company or individual?

Tesla have many litigation cases, for and against. I don't pay attention, most are frivolous

The only 300000 vehicle claim was a software update recall for cruise control. This was done via the over the air update OTA

This is a partial list of lawsuits involving Tesla, Inc, the American automotive and energy company, since 2008; as of August 2023, Tesla is party to over 1,750 lawsuits, and as of September 2021, it is party to 200 in China alone.

Big successful corporations always have litigation-doesn't amount to a pile of beans in the vast, vast majority of cases
 
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classic33

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It's got to be better than a smokey old transit or whatever doing it surely
Possibly. But if you're driving on a multi drop trip, one parcel on that street, two on the road 200 yards further up basis, and are paid by the deliveries made, will you be keeping an eye on the charge status? When the fuel was liquid you had the opportunity to nip in to a petrol station for a quick top-up and go.

And it's the nature of the type of work being done that will limit their use at present.
 

CXRAndy

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Possibly. But if you're driving on a multi drop trip, one parcel on that street, two on the road 200 yards further up basis, and are paid by the deliveries made, will you be keeping an eye on the charge status? When the fuel was liquid you had the opportunity to nip in to a petrol station for a quick top-up and go.

And it's the nature of the type of work being done that will limit their use at present.

stop start driving is perfect for EV, they are far more economical than 70 down a motorway
 

classic33

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Exactly, electric transport is superb for urban.
For which fast acceleration and a high top speed are not required.
 

biggs682

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Exactly, electric transport is superb for urban.

I think that delivery vans , taxis and inner urban transport should be electrified as that would help to reduce emissions and pollutions.
But the added cost is bound to be passed on to the customers which is unfair.
A lot of The civilised world has become lazy and will order stuff to be delivered to the door rather than go and fetch it themselves which doesn't help .
 

lazybloke

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I think that delivery vans , taxis and inner urban transport should be electrified as that would help to reduce emissions and pollutions.
But the added cost is bound to be passed on to the customers which is unfair.
A lot of The civilised world has become lazy and will order stuff to be delivered to the door rather than go and fetch it themselves which doesn't help .

Why is that unfair?
 

All uphill

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A lot of The civilised world has become lazy and will order stuff to be delivered to the door rather than go and fetch it themselves which doesn't help .

That's an interesting point.

I have always thought it better that one delivery driver and vehicle makes 40 drops a day than 40 people in their 40 cars head in to town.

Obviously the best thing would be for those 40 people to hop on their bicycle and head into a clean, quiet town!
 

Jameshow

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Possibly. But if you're driving on a multi drop trip, one parcel on that street, two on the road 200 yards further up basis, and are paid by the deliveries made, will you be keeping an eye on the charge status? When the fuel was liquid you had the opportunity to nip in to a petrol station for a quick top-up and go.

And it's the nature of the type of work being done that will limit their use at present.

I doubt most Amazon drivers do a large number of miles our seems to park and do half a dozen from a static point! Like cricket getting a century isn't too slow if your hitting sixes!!
 
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