battery power is wrong in my opinion

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byegad

Legendary Member
Location
NE England
Tell my friends, both in their eighties who added edrive to their recumbent trikes, to help them up the hills.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
Anything that means someone cycles rather than drives, or rather than sitting on their bum, can only be a good thing.

If an e-bike is the difference between this person being out cycling (and they do need to use the pedals at some point!) and not, then it gets a thumbs up from me.
 

thefollen

Veteran
You should have added the caveat: "This post is intended as a light-hearted, tongue-in-cheek jibe at able-bodied cyclists who ride electricity-assisted bicycles. No offence is intended to any persons riding them out of necessity; I believe it's great they can enjoy the beauty, economy and convenience of cycling whilst unfortunately being less physically able to ride a regular bicycle."

Should be standard on any post involving an electric bike.

The question is however: Was the person overtaking you on a hill riding no-handed whilst waving a cheap plastic fake tommahawk in the air, and with the other hand patting his mouth in order to make the 'wah-wah-wah-wah' noise... only removing the hand to bellow 'got yer scalp mate!' :-)
 

Poacher

Gravitationally challenged member
Location
Nottingham
[QUOTE 3227584, member: 45"]I once made a light-hearted comment as I was overtaken by a rider on an electric bike. It prompted a 2-mile discussion with him about how his knees had gone and how the ebike had given him a new lease of life and enabled him to carry on riding.[/QUOTE]
That'll larn ye!

On a more serious note, if anyone reading this intends to fit a front wheel conversion kit, rather than buy a purpose-designed e-bike, make sure the forks, and particularly the drop-outs, are up to the job. Last year I met a retired couple in Le Lude, France who were having problems. The husband had bought a rather cheap upright trike for his wife, and fitted a conversion kit bought off ebay. The drop-outs were simply the ends of the forks pressed together, rather than being brazed in forged fittings, and weren't up to resisting the torque generated by the motor. After several unsuccessful attempts to tighten the nuts sufficiently to enable further progress, we had to admit defeat and decided that either a strengthening strut added to the back of the forks to spread the load, or more likely a decent new pair of forks was needed. His wife was rather upset as it was the first trial of the trike, and she was really looking forward to being able to get round the market again. :cry:
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Is it possible to deregulate the e-bikes rather like the 50/125 cc moped riders used to? Otherwise a maintained 15mph over a good route could be a great wind break.
Yes it is with a 'jumper' circuit so that the controller can't tell how fast the wheel is revolving. There is one you can buy with 2 1000watt motors (front and back wheel) that is sold for off-road use only, 50+ mph but it apparently really gobbles up the battery so needs a lot of charging.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Yes it is with a 'jumper' circuit so that the controller can't tell how fast the wheel is revolving. There is one you can buy with 2 1000watt motors (front and back wheel) that is sold for off-road use only, 50+ mph but it apparently really gobbles up the battery so needs a lot of charging.


mm - 50+mph I think you'd need spare trousers as.well
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
That'll larn ye!

On a more serious note, if anyone reading this intends to fit a front wheel conversion kit, rather than buy a purpose-designed e-bike, make sure the forks, and particularly the drop-outs, are up to the job. Last year I met a retired couple in Le Lude, France who were having problems. The husband had bought a rather cheap upright trike for his wife, and fitted a conversion kit bought off ebay. The drop-outs were simply the ends of the forks pressed together, rather than being brazed in forged fittings, and weren't up to resisting the torque generated by the motor. After several unsuccessful attempts to tighten the nuts sufficiently to enable further progress, we had to admit defeat and decided that either a strengthening strut added to the back of the forks to spread the load, or more likely a decent new pair of forks was needed. His wife was rather upset as it was the first trial of the trike, and she was really looking forward to being able to get round the market again. :cry:
This is something I have done something about in that I have purchased a new set of forks for my trike for 2 reasons.
1 - As stated the forks on mine are pressed together to form the dropout but this is not thick enough to allow the anti-spin portion of the electric wheel to fit in and tighten properly, thus leaving the wheel loose:eek:, nothing to do with the strength of the forks.
2 - The trike has a 24in front wheel and despite being able to get wheel kits in 20, 24, 26 inch +700c simply replacing the front wheel with a 24 limits my options too much so I've gone for a set of 26in mountain bike (rigid) forks and a 26in wheel kit. This has the added bonus of raising the front end 2 inches so I can remove the supplied steel semi ape-hanger bars and replace them with aluminium North Road bars (too low at the front to fit those yet). For those of you that say this will affect the handling truth is it doesn't handle anyway:crazy: slight curves are fine but any sharp bends or junctions :eek: its walking pace only.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
[QUOTE 3227601, member: 259"]Sounds good. Which kit did you fit to it?[/QUOTE]
I think its imported/designed by Cyclotricity but that may be just the company its boxes are Chinese in origin but aren't most things these days. Maz's is still going strong after 2 years so the kits pretty good IMO.
 
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crackers

Regular
Location
burnley
You should have added the caveat: "This post is intended as a light-hearted, tongue-in-cheek jibe at able-bodied cyclists who ride electricity-assisted bicycles. No offence is intended to any persons riding them out of necessity; I believe it's great they can enjoy the beauty, economy and convenience of cycling whilst unfortunately being less physically able to ride a regular bicycle."

Should be standard on any post involving an electric bike.

The question is however: Was the person overtaking you on a hill riding no-handed whilst waving a cheap plastic fake tommahawk in the air, and with the other hand patting his mouth in order to make the 'wah-wah-wah-wah' noise... only removing the hand to bellow 'got yer scalp mate!' :-)
jus a big grin, in fact so big i don't know how he kept on one face
 

Salad Dodger

Legendary Member
Location
Kent Coast
To be fair to the original post, it's a bit depressing when I am trundling along on my (legal) e-bike, and someone on an e-bike whizzes past at what would be an unattainable speed for mine. So to be passed on a human powered bike by one of these "flyers" must be worse.

But I really wouldn't fancy being hit in the face by a fly or a wasp on an e-bike at say 25mph. It's bad enough when one hits you at a legal 15 mph.......

(edited to add a further paragraph)

The e-bikes have been very handy this week, as it's folk week in Broadstairs, and we are nipping up and down between the campsite - at the top of the main hill - and various event and workshop venues in the town. Mrs Salad still complains about hills, even on the e-bike, but mine is 1 mph faster than hers, so if I ride in front, her whinges are lost in the slipstream!
 
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Cyclopathic

Veteran
Location
Leicester.
It's a crazy, crazy world where people use electricity to run their bikes and bikes to run their smoothie makers.

That said I would much rather have a person on an e-bike than in a car and much rather that people could get about on an e-bike rather than not at all. It may rankle with the purist in us but what the heck.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
I get a little annoyed when I am overtaken by an e bike I see regularly, especially when I know it's illegal, but the guy who rides it probably couldnt give a toss what I think, so I just get on with my day.
(But it still secretly annoys me, it just seems like cheating. there I've said it.)

And you get passed too :ohmy::whistle:
 
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