BBC helmet cam film to explore cyclist-motorist conflict

[Lpoolck]

the standard tyres that come with the Speiclized allez Specialized Espoir Sport, 60TPI, wire bead, double BlackBelt protection, 700x25c

Thought they were just standard, you not vulnerable to slip in the ice? I've took my bike out once and I went over on some black ice so until get some stud winter tyres I don't feel safe.

 

[TheLondonCyclist]

There is a HUGE conversation going on about this show, wow. This is what I feel should be said.

We have to blame the people, not the cars, motorbikes or bicycles, it's just the smugness of the person, that is all. I'm pretty laid back on the road and couldn't give a monkeys what cars do 90% of the time. It amazed me that one individual has an infinite amount of "close passes" and what not. It makes you think that the driver and the cyclist have had an argument 2 minutes up the road, then the video cut to where the action happens and blames the other with the "footage". We just all have to get along and not use the camera to make videos just to get a response from other road users. Wear the camera to catch your exciting moments on the road and the speed you reach, the climbs you attack. Don't just think you're wearing cameras on your bike just to catch an argument. Enjoy cycling

 

[Andrew_P]

Quite glad someone else thinks Greater London is full of pap drivers. I was getting a bit worried it was just me, what with Bentmikey, Gaz and Dell all saying Central London is fine. I would say my strike rate is one in every commute, if not more at the moment. Only seems to have got like this since late September.

 

[defy-one]

Vaguely on the subject of London driving, I've been struck by what seems to be a change in driver behaviour coming back into London from east Kent. Out in Kent the driving seems patient but coming past the Medway towns traffic behaviour deteriorates, hitting an absolute low around Dartford. However, closer into town, driving seems to improve again. Possibly because the drivers are more used to car congestion and cyclists on the road.

Is this something anybody else has noticed?

this is a well known fact. drivers get into greater london where traffic is still moving pretty quickly, so they start changing lanes and use rat runs to gain an advantage on the morning commute. once into London, that advantage is taken away and they settle down to queuing and waiting

 

[RedRider]

Yep, when i think about it I'm still surprised how well everyone rubs along on inner london roads. I feel there's at least as much community out on the roads compared with a rammed tube platform at rush hour, for example.
I guess there's not a lot more to be said about the tv programme. The non-cyclists I've spoken to had their sense of cycling as dangerous confirmed which is a shame.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

The non-cyclists I've spoken to had their sense of cycling as dangerous confirmed which is a shame.

I fear this may be the programme's real legacy.

 

[BSRU]

The non-cyclists I've spoken to had their sense of cycling as dangerous confirmed which is a shame.

Just another false excuse.
My better half thought nothing of the programme, she has heard my stories of the stupidly insane stuff I used to do on two wheels with a 955cc engine, shows the danger is in all in the mind.

 

[Sore Thumb]

Having spoken to a few people now about this program, the majority feeling is how the cyclists were in the wrong and antagonistic.

Also they say cycling like that (referring to the alley cat race) they are asking for it. When I explained this was a commercial stunt video they are surprised and thought that they were real cycle commuters.

So the damage has been done by this program. How many years has this now taken us back.??

 

[dellzeqq]

There is a HUGE conversation going on about this show, wow. This is what I feel should be said.

We have to blame the people, not the cars, motorbikes or bicycles, it's just the smugness of the person, that is all. I'm pretty laid back on the road and couldn't give a monkeys what cars do 90% of the time. It amazed me that one individual has an infinite amount of "close passes" and what not. It makes you think that the driver and the cyclist have had an argument 2 minutes up the road, then the video cut to where the action happens and blames the other with the "footage". We just all have to get along and not use the camera to make videos just to get a response from other road users. Wear the camera to catch your exciting moments on the road and the speed you reach, the climbs you attack. Don't just think you're wearing cameras on your bike just to catch an argument. Enjoy cycling

switched off at fifteen seconds. Absurd stuff. My suggestion is to take it down.

 

[redcard]

Cringe.

 

[gavintc]

Having spoken to a few people now about this program, the majority feeling is how the cyclists were in the wrong and antagonistic.

Also they say cycling like that (referring to the alley cat race) they are asking for it. When I explained this was a commercial stunt video they are surprised and thought that they were real cycle commuters.

So the damage has been done by this program. How many years has this now taken us back.??

Yes, this is the view I am picking up as well . I am on another non-cycling forum and the general opinion is that cyclists are arrogant and a problem on the roads. Putting forward pro-cyclist comment and trying to explain the events does not go down well. Not a good outcome.

 

[Glow worm]

There is a HUGE conversation going on about this show, wow. This is what I feel should be said.

Why is he in a toilet and what on earth is that accent?! I think I'd need an interpreter if I could be arsed to watch more than a few seconds!

 

[Trevrev]

Yes, this is the view I am picking up as well . I am on another non-cycling forum and the general opinion is that cyclists are arrogant and a problem on the roads. Putting forward pro-cyclist comment and trying to explain the events does not go down well. Not a good outcome.

This is the opinion i've been getting too.
I haven't heard a good word towards cyclist from the people i know that have seen this programme.
I got my wife to watch it with me last night, we got to the point of that Gareth bloke clapping and shouting at the taxi driver, and she was cringing so much she didn't want to watch it no further.
She asked if i behave like that too......................................PMSL!

 

[TheLondonCyclist]

Why is he in a toilet and what on earth is that accent?! I think I'd need an interpreter if I could be arsed to watch more than a few seconds!

I'm in a BATHROOM because it has good acoustics. My accent is North West London. I have friends from other countries, so my accent changes and I sometimes sound different every now and then. I don't know why you felt the need to insult me with that "interpreter" rubbish, but hey, whatever gets you by.

 

[veloevol]

Vaguely on the subject of London driving, I've been struck by what seems to be a change in driver behaviour coming back into London from east Kent. Out in Kent the driving seems patient but coming past the Medway towns traffic behaviour deteriorates, hitting an absolute low around Dartford. However, closer into town, driving seems to improve again. Possibly because the drivers are more used to car congestion and cyclists on the road.

Is this something anybody else has noticed?

Yes noticed that drop in driving standards too.