BBC helmet cam film to explore cyclist-motorist conflict

[Harry_Palmer79]

I see Melanie Phillips is getting in on the act as an h'orderve befor the main course on Wednesday.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2242003/Arrogant-abusive-oh-smug--cyclists-think-law.html

"Arrogant, abusive, smug..." Until I saw the word 'cyclists' in the link I thought perhaps she was writing an article about herself!

 

[Bassjunkieuk]

Ok Gaz that's enough YouTube dick wagging ;-)

 

[Jezston]

Is there any way to campaign to prevent this programme from being broadcast?

Having seen the trailer and many non-cyclists reaction to it I am genuinely worried about getting on the road after it's been shown.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

Is there any way to campaign to prevent this programme from being broadcast?

Having seen the trailer and many non-cyclists reaction to it I am genuinely worried about getting on the road after it's been shown.

George Entwhistle happily accepts £450,000 to not allow programs to air.

But I'm in for a £

1. T.M.H.N.E.T

Although he was nudged out the door

 

[ianrauk]

Is there any way to campaign to prevent this programme from being broadcast?

Having seen the trailer and many non-cyclists reaction to it I am genuinely worried about getting on the road after it's been shown.

Give over.
The programme's not going to change peoples (both Cyclists and Car Drivers) attitudes one way or the other.
You're hand wringing over nothing.
Cycling in London is safe and getting safer.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

Carlton Reid got his hands on it.

http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/i-m-a-human-like-anyone-else/014027

 

[Jezston]

The programme's not going to change peoples (both Cyclists and Car Drivers) attitudes one way or the other.

It already has, and it hasn't even been broadcast yet.

I've already heard people who didn't previously have much of an opinion on cyclists getting incensed purely from the content of the trailer.

 

[ianrauk]

It already has, and it hasn't even been broadcast yet.

I've already heard people who didn't previously have much of an opinion on cyclists getting incensed purely from the content of the trailer.

A couple of people you know have commented - wow!
And they have yet to see the programme.

If you really think that you are going to be scared of riding your bike after some TV programme then I suggest you give up on your bike now as you really aren't cut out for cycling in London.

I say this again as a very experienced daily London cycling commuter and leisure cyclist. Cycling in London is safe and getting safer. Let these people get all incensed. It won't changed anyone's attitudes on the road. Next week they'll have forgotten about it and get all huffy puffy about something else in the press or on tv.

 

[Jezston]

I say this again as a very experienced daily London cycling commuter and leisure cyclist. Cycling in London is safe and getting safer.

I'm sure it is - I certainly feel safer riding around here than I did back in the midlands.

Let these people get all incensed. It won't changed anyone's attitudes on the road. Next week they'll have forgotten about it and get all huffy puffy about something else in the press or on tv.

I hope you're right, but the content of the trailer and what I've read from the articles who have seem the show is that it's content is deliberately and outrageously incendiary, which is immensely irresponsible of a broadcaster and I'm concerned what effects this will have on people's attitudes on the road. Not all of us are "very experienced daily London cycling commuter and leisure cyclist" road warriors, not all of us are mucho tough guys who give as good as they get on the road - most people on bikes are nervous gutter huggers who wouldn't even dream of so much as taking primary - do you think they are "not cut out for cycling in London"?

Whatever, that's my views, you have yours. I'm not interesting in getting into these kind of arguments these days.

 

[ianrauk]

I'm sure it is - I certainly feel safer riding around here than I did back in the midlands.



I hope you're right, but the content of the trailer and what I've read from the articles who have seem the show is that it's content is deliberately and outrageously incendiary, which is immensely irresponsible of a broadcaster and I'm concerned what effects this will have on people's attitudes on the road. Not all of us are "very experienced daily London cycling commuter and leisure cyclist" road warriors, not all of us are mucho tough guys who give as good as they get on the road - most people on bikes are nervous gutter huggers who wouldn't even dream of so much as taking primary - do you think they are "not cut out for cycling in London"?

Whatever, that's my views, you have yours. I'm not interesting in getting into these kind of arguments these days.

Road Warrior? Macho Tough Guy? Who is this wonder cyclist you talk about?
Does me being a very experienced London commuting cyclist make me both of those then?

You are talking out of your arse when you say most people on bikes are nervous gutter huggers. That is complete tosh. You cycle in London now and you have for a while to know that this is not the case.

You are winging and hand wringing over a silly programme about cycle/car conflicts, stating that you will be scared to ride your bike afterwards - even before it's been aired.

I repeat. The programme will have no effect to those on the roads, both cyclists and car drivers.
Every one will go on their merry way as before.

I will report back in the days after to see if it has changed. If it's for the worse I will be glad to eat humble pie. If it hasn't changed anything I expect you to too.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

not all of us are mucho tough guys who give as good as they get on the road

most people on bikes are nervous gutter huggers who wouldn't even dream of so much as taking primary - do you think they are "not cut out for cycling in London"?

Whatever, that's my views, you have yours. I'm not interesting in getting into these kind of arguments these days.

Your "views" read as if you are the cycling oracle with some form of factual,statistical knowledge to back them up.

 

[Jezston]

Your "views" read as if you are the cycling oracle with some form of factual,statistical knowledge to back them up.

This is what happens when you get yourself into an argument with someone exhibiting a similar attitude, and for that I apologise. I just wanted to share my concerns.

 

[BentMikey]

So, Ian, do you think it's going to help cycling then?

 

[ianrauk]

So, Ian, do you think it's going to help cycling then?

It's going to help as much as it's not going to help.

 

[SW19cam]

It's going to help as much as it's not going to help.

So you think the net effect will be completely zero? And you can’t accept that it could, over a period of time or via subsequent documentaries of a similar nature, have any influence on people’s opinion to cycle themselves or on their view of cycling?