BBC helmet cam film to explore cyclist-motorist conflict

[jdtate101]

Birmingham seem very chilled by comparison, although I'm sure most London cyclists have no incidents most days. I've never had anyone threaten to get out and punch me. London drivers do seem to be a lot more angry, probably due to the high levels of traffic jams.

 

[EltonFrog]

I'm disappointed, I don't think the edit on my self was a fair reflection on the person I am or the work that I do.
Unfortunately I'm the only one that knows exactly what I said on interviews and I know exactly how they cut things to take them out of context.

I didn't watch the show, mainly 'cos I ain't interested in all that them and us crap, but I have read this thread with interest. I have had some experience with tv producers, and they do that to people to make what they think will make the programme more interesting. They are not necessarily interested in reporting the facts, or showing poeple in the best light. Thats what tv producers learn to do in media studies at college.

 

[Miquel In De Rain]

Birmingham seem very chilled by comparison, although I'm sure most London cyclists have no incidents most days. I've never had anyone threaten to get out and punch me. London drivers do seem to be a lot more angry, probably due to the high levels of traffic jams.

Today it was close passes and tailgating.

 

[steve broughton]

I'm quite happy to believe that. Unfortunately that won't be the impression gained by several million people. His contribution often came over as self-satisfied and close to smirking in places.

He said on reflection he could have reacted better - I'm sure the majority will remember what they saw not what he said.

Thats exactly how he came across to me, although I was about the same age as he when I lived in London, 24 is he? are you Gaz? as I said I had the odd altercation when I cycled to work though my reaction was a lot different to his in similar situations, at one point I dragged a bus driver out of his cab who had tried to kill me.

 

[PaulSB]

I'm disappointed, I don't think the edit on my self was a fair reflection on the person I am or the work that I do.
Unfortunately I'm the only one that knows exactly what I said on interviews and I know exactly how they cut things to take them out of context.

You didn't know that would happen?

TBH you have given a very poor image of helmet cam users and cyclists in general. If you hit someone's cab what do you expect to happen? Sarcastic hand clapping? Assault?

People speak highly off you and I'll accept that but your contribution tonight has been far from positive for cycling. If you're going on national TV you have to be very careful with your words, facial expression and general demeanour.

Still what would I know? I'm just a TRL549.

 

[locker]

I think you will find that you hit one (granted she was the size of two).

Plus the one that nearly went under the bus, like I have said before if I met them now I would apologise

 

[trampyjoe]

We all get our dreams smashed sometimes.

I have been contacted by a Crime programme producer on Sky channel about my video of the guy cutting the corner. Unless I make my opinions clear, they might misquote me as well.

IMO if you are going to get involved with the media on this kind of level you are setting yourself up to have your dreams smashed and your views and opinions twisted.
Like I said though, if you go into it knowing this will happen then you shouldn't get any nasty surprises.

 

[redcard]

I'm disappointed, I don't think the edit on my self was a fair reflection on the person I am or the work that I do.
Unfortunately I'm the only one that knows exactly what I said on interviews and I know exactly how they cut things to take them out of context.

Don't let it get you down. You've contributed more than your fair share to the cause, and certainly don't deserve the couple of negative comments that have been posted here.

 

[gaz]

Gaz, I do not support Drago's view, but I do not think you were shown in a totally positive light in the selected edit of the selected clip.

I am absolutely clear that in my opinion your Youtube stuff occupies the higher end of the spectrum and is very helpful and positive.

But I think the image portrayed in the first few minutes was unhelpfully edited at best.

I type this in the secure knowledge that I'm 100+ miles from you as I do so and whilst accepting that at your age I was an occasional irate toucher of other people's paintwork in traffic...

I am disappointed in the edit.

 

[mickle]

You didn't know that would happen?

TBH you have given a very poor image of helmet cam users and cyclists in general. If you hit someone's cab what do you expect to happen? Sarcastic hand clapping? Assault?

People speak highly off you and I'll accept that but your contribution tonight has been far from positive for cycling. If you're going on national TV you have to be very careful with your words, facial expression and general demeanour.

Still what would I know? I'm just a TRL549.

Bollocks.

 

[gaz]

But you went into this project knowing that this is exactly what would happen right?

No, the project started off as something different. The direction it was taking changed a few months back, unfortunately I was already tied in.

 

[albion]

It was what I half expected from my limited knowledge of gaz.
But what I did notice is that it was only near then end that the beeb chose to make gaz more human.

As to the show, overall it was well done. Sometimes you have to entertain to get a message across, and just maybe they did that.

BTW that junction stat is accurate.
I tackle every one assuming the driver has not seen me, knowing that I can never 100% quite know if they have.

 

[trampyjoe]

No, the project started off as something different. The direction it was taking changed a few months back, unfortunately I was already tied in.

I can well believe that.

Keep up the good work though (and I mean all the cyclecam guys) regardless of how you came across on telly you all do a good thing in educating even if it is sometimes at your own expense.

 

[Poacher]

I am disappointed in the edit.

Quite rightly so. However, I think you acquitted yourself well. I had no idea you were so young - your contributions to this forum and on YouTube (is that how you youngsters spell it?) bely your lack of years. I'm off to bed now, as it's well past my bedtime - I may well not wake next morn. I always expected to die by the roadside, but .........................

 

[theclaud]

Only the two that were shown

Only two!

Well I know I'm biased on account of it being Agent Hilda productions, and because I don't usually watch any telly it seemed a bit of a treat, but I thought it was rather good. Filming people as they watched things was really interesting, and despite the tone of sensationalism in some of the voiceover and the silly rhetoric about war I thought it said something worthwhile about power and responsibility. The stories of the mother and the old cabbie were moving, and I even warmed a bit to the nobber vigilante bloke. The truck driver was a good example of someone rather human whose day-to-day experience gave rise to him seeing things a particular way. Magnatom's truck of death moment was proper scary. The cabbie who had a go at Gaz strikes me as a dangerous thug - I think Gaz has done some of his potential victims a favour by reminding him he might get caught on camera...