BBC helmet cam film to explore cyclist-motorist conflict

[jonny jeez]

It's been a tough day, i'm more annoyed because the mail is reporting that I'm getting death threats. Which is not true. A few people have said some crap on twitter, not directly too me and that is no worse that what I get on youtube daily.

Glad to hear that you are rising above the comments.

I was shocked (having met you and understanding your nature and personality) at how the final edit made you appear to relish in the cabbie incident.

Chin up Gaz. trust bloddy Maggers to grab the limelight....flippin Scots wailer!!

PS, Luv u really Maggs

 

[Miquel In De Rain]

We are with you Gaz,you have friends here.

 

[Matthew_T]

Do we really have to continue this thread anymore?

I think that we are all in agreement that:
1. The BBC covered both sides fairly well.
2. Gaz's actual personality was poorly portrayed in the programme.
3. The video of Gaz and the taxi driver wasnt the best example to use.
4. There isnt a 'War on Britain's roads', it is just people not liking other people.

 

[Dusty66]

Annoyance? You're as ignorant as those idiot drivers if you can't understand that a cyclist pedalling along a road is perfectly entitled to do so at a speed of their choosing. They are traffic, their journey every bit valid as any drivers.

The guy tooting didn't have enough space to safely pass the cyclist. Did you see the oncoming traffic? The double white lines?

Does it not register with you that the people holding up most drivers are other drivers? They'll apparently sit quite happily in lines of traffic but they find us annoying?!

I don't know that bit of road personally, I'm just describing how it looked on TV. Now I've read that there can be 30 cyclists (WOW) at the junction just before it, and that it's a narrow stretch of road etc., etc., I can now say that the taxi driver was at fault! I was just describing how I saw it (prior to more info) and how most other TV viewers would have seen it.

I have read all the comments on the Daily Mail site and have seen many comments from cyclists who are able to see it from both sides. It seems on this forum (not surprising) that the majority just can't accept any argument at all. I am a cyclist myself! And a car driver. I can see both sides. When on my bike I know how drivers are thinking and it's not going to change, infact the more congested the roads get, the worse it's going to become. 30 cyclists at one junction, plus backed up traffic is unimaginable. No wonder everyone is at eachothers throats. Human nature is to think of number one, and on congested roads it leads to mayhem. But you can make a decision not to be a part of it. You can have a relaxing ride if you let all the speed freaks and impatient road users pass on by. There's no real need to weave in and out to save a few minutes, in fact doing that makes you just as bad as the drivers you are complaining about.

 

[Theseus]

Do we really have to continue this thread anymore?

Yes, I havn't seen it yet, and won't be able to until Sat PM.

After watching it I will need to spleen my vent.

 

[Leodis]

There's no real need to weave in and out to save a few minutes, in fact doing that makes you just as bad as the drivers you are complaining about.

You really have no idea.

 

[thefollen]

[QUOTE 2192739, member: 1314"]Look. I think Gaz is a hero for putting himself out there. He's also not stubborn and is a reflective person. So, me - I'll be buying him a pint at

LONDON CC XMAS DRINKS at:
THE STAGE DOOR PUB, off THE CUT, WATERLOO on
FRIDAY 14 DECEMBER, 6.30pm!!!!!!![/quote]

Cool, if possible I'll pop over and say hello.

 

[User482]

I want this. Everyone wants it. But in a city, this is mostly not practicable.

I know it should be, but it never will be.This comes down to planning and traffic management and a whole world of things that are decades away.

In cities, cyclists are often quicker than motorists, so there's no need for them to overtake.

 

[Dusty66]

You really have no idea.

I must have some idea my friend. I've been driving 25 years without an accident and cycling for pretty much the same time on and off without accident either.

 

[PK99]

You can have a relaxing ride if you let all the speed freaks and impatient road users pass on by. There's no real need to weave in and out to save a few minutes, in fact doing that makes you just as bad as the drivers you are complaining about.

wot he said!

 

[Leodis]

I must have some idea my friend. I've been driving 25 years without an accident and cycling for pretty much the same time on and off without accident either.

So after 25 years of cycling you think cyclists who filter are as bad as aggressive poor drivers.

 

[SportMonkey]

Were you in the playground when you typed this? Very school boy!
Made me laugh though!

Have you read my signature?

 

[Glow worm]

I must have some idea my friend. I've been driving 25 years without an accident and cycling for pretty much the same time on and off without accident either.

I suspect probably more off than on!

 

[Andrew_P]

I want this. Everyone wants it. But in a city, this is mostly not practicable.

I know it should be, but it never will be.This comes down to planning and traffic management and a whole world of things that are decades away.

My point was I am pretty sure non cycling drivers do not have a clue that it should be that sort of distance for a safe overtake, I am also sure none of them know the feeling a close pass gives. Even some of the cam shots <apart from Mags> do not truly give the sensation you feel in real life. At no point did the programme try and explain why cyclists should not be passed with inches to spare, nor why primary postion is taken.

 

[SportMonkey]

whistles aren't exactly quiet though... quite a loud piercing sound in fact... maybe that's why the police use them?

Whilst it might be heavy, 250g, for £20 and a little skill you could mount car horns on your bike.