Bike Theft Decriminalised

[classic33]

Ah no worries

To be fair I quite like the station staff at Leeds, they've probably read the same news we have about dodgy eBikes and taken a decision.

The e-mails are from Network Rail though.

 

[roley poley]

E-mail answer on the subject
Response By E-mail (27/03/2025 02.38 PM)
Ebikes banned from Network Rail property query - Leeds City Station

Dear

I have now received a response from our team at the station.
Unfortunately we do not allow storage of any form of Ebikes on the station, They can be stored on the rack, outside Princes Street.

I do hope this information is useful.

Kind regards


Ebikes banned from Network Rail property query - Leeds City Station

Response By E-mail (27/03/2025 02.50 PM)
This refers to all Network Rail Managed Stations.

Kind regards

I so miss the bike park at Leeds railway station run by Evans..it was built just for this sort of problem ....manned by the staff which ran their bike shop in the same building and able to monitor all entrants as they put a label on the frame before you went to chain it up...on your return you waved at the staff... unlocked ,brought it down ,showed them the stub of the ticket which matched the one on your bike and had a nice chat if you so chose and gave them £1.50...it was called "cyclepoint"...Enter "cyclepoint leeds" on you tube and see what we all need

 

[blackrat]

Is this restriction just for ebikes, the rest of us on proper bikes, no issues?

 

[Alex321]

Until cycle theft is taken seriously it will continue..................the "Ah well it's only a bike" attitude should be forgotten about and thieves appropriately punished. (and those who buy stolen bikes)

Their "attitude" is exactly the same for cars. They won't investigate a car theft if it as left at the station for more than 2 hours either.

It isn't "It's only a bike", it is "We don't have the resources to go through several hours of CCTV (for any theft) - which more often than not will not result in a positive ID anyhow".

 

[Alex321]

I’m still puzzled about the two hour cutoff. Is there an enhanced chance of detection under two hours? Who parks a bike at a station for under two hours?

I think it is about the volume of CCTV they will have to look through.

 

[Alex321]

Sadly, the public by large is not really bothered, not many own or ride bikes, compared to motorists.
Now, imagine if cars got stolen with impunity, there would be an outcry!

Their policy is exactly the same for cars as it is for bikes.

 

[Alex321]

Decriminalizing bike theft is stupid, with the cost of some bikes these days, it is GRAND theft.

And there is no decriminalising of it. People are saying that is what the effect of this policy is, but it is not actually decriminalising anything.

 

[Alex321]

It's smoke and mirrors by the Police (again). No way would they need to watch eg 12 hrs CCTV

eg somebody leaves their bike at 07:00 and returning 19:00 it's been stolen. Police don't start watching from 07:00 and finish at 16:30 when it was stolen to see the theft. They look at a frame at 13:00 and it's still there. Look at another frame at 16:00 and still there. So frame at 17:30 it's gone so back to frame at 16:45 it's gone so maybe watch frrom 16:00 so only a 45 min window,Could even do more single frame points to further reduce the 45 min window but my boring explanation goes on too long and tl;dr.

CCTV is recorded to hard disk drive these days so takes just seconds to look at each of the times to reduce the "theft window".

So this studying hours of video is complete twaddle. We finished with VHS tape with slow fast forward years ago, it's instanteaneous jumps to time points.. There is something else going on.

That only works if the whole of the bike parking area is covered. If it just covers the way in and out, or the bikes are parked closely enough together to not easily be able to see which ones are present, than that doesn't work.

 

[brommieinkorea]

Get rid of the CCTV. Post a police officer in the bike parking, one who's nearing retirement and resembles Drago. Anytime a bike is stolen from the bike park, the cop gets his pay docked £20. The policeman has a Taser and night stick, no handcuffs it'd work it's way out beautifully.