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yello

back and brave
Location
France
Now don't go making more assumptions :laugh:

No, I wouldn't drive like that because I wouldn't consider it safe to do so. Note, I wouldn't consider it safe. What an examiner might think, or whether it's a pass/fail issue, I simply wouldn't know.

Dare you admit that you don't actually know? ;)
 

Manonabike

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+1 I have certainly seen worse :ohmy:


+1

After reading the first post I thought it was going to be a shocking video but I've seen far worse.

Don't have a go at me but I think it was an exaggerated first post IMHO
 
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BSRU

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Swindon
+1

After reading the first post I thought it was going to be a shocking video but I've seen far worse.

Don't have a go at me but I think it was an exaggerated first post IMHO

If we all had the same opinion it would be a very boring forum.
 

Norm

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Rule 130, diagonal stripes bordered by a broken line you should not enter the area unless necessary.
Now I've always interpreted that differently to the way others here appear to be using it.

The phrase "unless necessary" doesn't mean, in my head, that there should be any consideration about whether an overtake was necessary but whether, given that an overtake is going to happen, it is necessary to enter a hatched area.

This comes from the thinking that no overtake is ever necessary because there is never, ever, a necessity to get past the vehicle in front.

With that interpretation, a driver entering a hatched area with broken lines is actually being considerate to cyclists because, if the overtake is a given, then a driver who considers it necessary to enter the protected area to carry out the overtake is giving us as much room as possible.
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
It wasn't ideal, but I wouldn't call that a left hook. Maybe I have become brutalised by London. The cyclist didn't have to alter direction and had no need to brake. Weaving in front of the bike might have seemed alarming however. Inconsiderate and stupid rather than out-and-out dangerous, perhaps?

Pretty much my take on it, I wouldn't even have raised an eyebrow at that one. I watched the video and just didn't see anyone put at risk, it may not be the way I'd have driven but it didn't strike me as dangerous.
 

downfader

extimus uero philosophus
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Come on guys, it is unacceptable. Braking or no braking, thats not the point, the car was driven into the path of the cyclist
 

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Jezston

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London
Come on guys, the driver turns left when they are less than 3 meters in front of the cyclist carrying child. There is NO WAY the driver could have made that move fully knowing that it could be totally safe. The outcome was ok in the end, nothing bad happened, but all the same the driver took the life of a mother and child into their hands for the sake of their convenience, and that is absolutely disgraceful.
 

Bicycle

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Well... It's not great but one sees worse every day.

I'm not sure what the great sin is here.

MINI driver is selfish, inattentive and not very considerate.

The cyclist seems unaware there is a car there; she doesn't look round until the car is level or past her.

She appears not to stop pedalling (or even slow perceptably) when the MINI sweeps across her bow.

Approaching a roundabout, one might expect a cyclist who hears a car approaching from behind to take a peek over the right shoulder.

I think the MINI driver would benefit from a talking-to by the boys in blue, but at the end of the day no-one was hurt, the cyclist appears unmoved and everyone got home happy.

There are bigger issues on the road...
 

Banjo

Fuelled with Jelly Babies
Location
South Wales
Mini driver is a dangerous pratt but I dont see how the child seat alters anything. Surely were not saying bikes with just adults require less room than those with a baby on the back?
 
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BSRU

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Swindon
Can you keep us up to date of what happens with the plod, be interesting to know what they do if anything

Don't expect anything too soon, I called the non-emergency Police number and spoke to a Police officer about the incident. Their take on it was it didn't sound too good from my description but the best thing to do would be let the traffic Police have a look at the video and then they would decide if it is worth spending any Police time on.

Since it is a "minor" offence and no collision occurred I will probably not hear anything for five to six weeks.
I would hope at least they have an unofficial chat with the driver, but they could have the same opinion as other people on this thread and deem to take no further action.

The whole point of reporting it to the Police is to let them decide, just because I feel it was unacceptable driving it does not mean the Police will come to the same conclusion.
As I wrote earlier, if they had done the same thing to me I would not have reported it.
 
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Mini driver is a dangerous pratt but I dont see how the child seat alters anything. Surely were not saying bikes with just adults require less room than those with a baby on the back?

I think the child alters it because people in general are more sensitive to things that happen to children.
 

Jezston

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Location
London
Don't expect anything too soon, I called the non-emergency Police number and spoke to a Police officer about the incident. Their take on it was it didn't sound too good from my description but the best thing to do would be let the traffic Police have a look at the video and then they would decide if it is worth spending any Police time on.

Since it is a "minor" offence and no collision occurred I will probably not hear anything for five to six weeks.
I would hope at least they have an unofficial chat with the driver, but they could have the same opinion as other people on this thread and deem to take no further action.

The whole point of reporting it to the Police is to let them decide, just because I feel it was unacceptable driving it does not mean the Police will come to the same conclusion.
As I wrote earlier, if they had done the same thing to me I would not have reported it.


Don't feel dispondent. I had an incident with a terrible taxi driver I felt was severe enough to warrant a call to the police. Resulted in him getting a visit. I'd imagine a visit from plod would be a real shake up to anyone who wasn't accustomed to such visits.
 

lukesdad

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Worst part of that video is you riding in the middle of the carriageway primary lack of consideration for other road users IMO.
 
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