Britains Most Hated Cyclist

[summerdays]

I wonder if any of the Glasgow bin lorry driver's colleagues knew about his medical history and remained quiet, anxious not to grass a colleague and stitch him up like a kipper.

I would feel really really bad if I'd kept quiet and something happened that me speaking out might have prevented. I'd like to think they hadn't noticed as why would you be in the cab with someone whose driving you were worried about.

In a past job I had a boss that I shared a car with to meetings occasionally, I didn't rate his driving at all, and eventually I told him I preferred going by public transport rather than get in a car with him. Ok I didn't report him to his boss, we just agreed to go by public transport in future. Last I heard he had given up driving.

 

[benb]

Which isn't the same as getting them sacked.

I emailed a taxi company a few years ago after one of their drivers passed me very close and fast, after having gone the wrong side of a keep left sign.
They emailed back to thank me and to say they had let the driver go.

Did I feel guilty about getting someone sacked? No.
It was entirely the driver's fault - if they hadn't driven like a dangerous idiot they'd still have a job. The same holds true in this case. You're blaming the wrong person for the driver getting sacked.

 

[summerdays]

I bought a Brompton for similar reasons.

I hadn't rediscovered cycling at that point, wish I had!

 

[Hip Priest]

I emailed a taxi company a few years ago after one of their drivers passed me very close and fast, after having gone the wrong side of a keep left sign.
They emailed back to thank me and to say they had let the driver go.

Did I feel guilty about getting someone sacked? No.
It was entirely the driver's fault - if they hadn't driven like a dangerous idiot they'd still have a job. The same holds true in this case. You're blaming the wrong person for the driver getting sacked.

I'm not blaming anyone. You've made the wrong inferrence from my comment.

 

[benb]

I'm not blaming anyone. You've made the wrong inferrence from my comment.

Sorry, I thought you were implying that one shouldn't report people in case they lost their job.

 

[Hip Priest]

Sorry, I thought you were implying that one shouldn't report people in case they lost their job.

To clarify, I think there is something snide about informing on a colleague. For example, we're not allowed to use our mobiles at our desks. If a colleague told the boss that they'd seen me sending a text, I'd regard them as a grass. However, if I was doing something genuinely dangerous, different rules apply. So I think Dave Sherry did the right thing.

 

[benb]

To clarify, I think there is something snide about informing on a colleague. For example, we're not allowed to use our mobiles at our desks. If a colleague told the boss that they'd seen me sending a text, I'd regard them as a grass. However, if I was doing something genuinely dangerous, different rules apply. So I think Dave Sherry did the right thing.

Yeah, I wouldn't bother if they were checking facebook at their desk (if they consistently took the piss I might have a word), but I have a zero-tolerance attitude to people doing something that endangers people, so I'd report someone driving on the phone without a second thought, whether I knew them or not.

 

[User33236]

To clarify, I think there is something snide about informing on a colleague. For example, we're not allowed to use our mobiles at our desks. If a colleague told the boss that they'd seen me sending a text, I'd regard them as a grass. However, if I was doing something genuinely dangerous, different rules apply. So I think Dave Sherry did the right thing.

Glad you added the last part.

In my line of work, if we do things wrong, patients can come to harm. I have reported colleagues for dangerous behavior and would not hesitate to do it again.

 

[liambauckham]

maybe he could have given him a warning?

 

[Nigel-YZ1]

No. Not the same thing at all and please refrain from insulting posters.

Well that's me put in my place.

 

[summerdays]

maybe he could have given him a warning?

I would expect his terms and conditions are quite clear about using a hand held mobile whilst at the wheel of a bus. Why would you expect a warning if you have been told Don't do it unless you want a P45.

Everyone else at his place of employment has now been warned what will happen in this situation.

 

[Nigel-YZ1]

Why do some people expect that one should turn a blind eye to dangerous behaviour just because it's from a colleague?

That's what I said but I got told off for it

 

[benb]

That's what I said but I got told off for it

I thought your analogy was fine.

 

[liambauckham]

I would expect his terms and conditions are quite clear about using a hand held mobile whilst at the wheel of a bus. Why would you expect a warning if you have been told Don't do it unless you want a P45.

Everyone else at his place of employment has now been warned what will happen in this situation.

Yeah I totally get that but im talking about the person. Like if I saw a colleague doing something like that I'd probably give them a warning and if they acted like a dick or did it again then they are fair game.

and to clarify when i say act like a dick i mean

me "he mr i saw you breaking the law the other day"

him " f***** you!"

then he's fair game.

 

[benb]

Whereas I'd prefer to get dangerous drivers off the road ASAP.
Why do they deserve a warning? What if after you've given them a warning they run someone over and kill them?