Brompton Rival?

[Smudge]

The fold and the folded size isn't any different to almost all 20" folders. I also prefer the handlebar post to be inside the fold, not outside like this Atto.
I like its light weight tho, but its stupidly expensive.

 

[berlinonaut]

There's a new lightweight folder about, carbon frame with belt drive either single speed or Alfine 11. Looks tasty but quite a price.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ke-high-performance-carbon-watch-out-brompton

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To me this looks suspiciuously like a clone of the Java Air folder that has been around for already for a couple of years. The quality of the Air seems to be somewhat debatable, but at least it is cheap. The clones often are vastly expensive. Already four years ago one clone was for sale in the UK under the name Lios (http://www.liosfoldingbike.com/ - domain is dead) that was advertized for ~4000€. At the same time the original Java Air goes for 1200$ or less: https://sg.carousell.com/p/java-air-20s-full-carbon-folding-bike-with-free-goodies-51071872/ A variant is for sale on ebay.uk as well https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-Folding-Bike-Road-Bicycle-Shimano-10-Speed-Disc-Brake-only-10-18kg-full-bike-/281938194262 and if you search a little bit I am sure you'll find plenty of variants and versions under different names. So I'd assume the price for the ATTO version(s) is mainly phantasy, marketing and wishful thinking...

 

[StuAff]

To me this looks suspiciuously like a clone of the Java Air folder that has been around for already for a couple of years. The quality of the Air seems to be somewhat debatable, but at least it is cheap. The clones often are vastly expensive. Already four years ago one clone was for sale in the UK under the name Lios (http://www.liosfoldingbike.com/ - domain is dead) that was advertized for ~4000€. At the same time the original Java Air goes for 1200$ or less: https://sg.carousell.com/p/java-air-20s-full-carbon-folding-bike-with-free-goodies-51071872/ A variant is for sale on ebay.uk as well https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-Folding-Bike-Road-Bicycle-Shimano-10-Speed-Disc-Brake-only-10-18kg-full-bike-/281938194262 and if you search a little bit I am sure you'll find plenty of variants and versions under different names. So I'd assume the price for the ATTO version(s) is mainly phantasy, marketing and wishful thinking...

The Atto is apparently a continuation of the Lios model- one of the two business partners decided to give up, the other is now doing this one under his own name.

 

[kais01]

weight is 9.3 kg of my 2sp ti brompton commuter, with ti bolt set, ti m stem, 60 mm alloy riser, spd detachable pedals. original ti post is replaced with an aftermarket extended version.

it nevertheless has some slightly heavy add-ons, and weight includes a 69t chainwheel and corresponding longer chain, also included are pedals, rear light, mudguards, extra long mudguard flap, as well as carrier block and a rear mirror. so for a more serious weight-weenie more could easily be shaved off

taken together means no astronomical cost to have your brompton reach weight close to the ones cited here. moreover two gears add considerable versatility and speed compared to single-speed.

bikes folded so that chain is exposed on outside of package is to me a definite and absolute no-go. exposed belt drive is ok.

 

[swytchbike]

Here is another potential new rival

Flit bike, but retailing for £2,500

 

[u_i]

Single speed for £2,500?! It is supposed to be for commuting but fenders not possible?

 

[Kell]

Maybe it's fine if you live in a very flat, very hot country. Where there is no rain and there are no hills.

 

[steveindenmark]

That is never a rival for a Brompton.

 

[tds101]

Here is another potential new rival

Flit bike, but retailing for £2,500

This is an electric bike, and it's a completely different category. You only posted this to sell your product,...an overpriced, rebranded chinese single speed with a cheap motor, nothing more.