Camsters

[montyboy]

I've never had an aggressive response. It's only the idiots who jump out the cars and threaten violence, It's only the idiotic cyclists who react aggressively to motorists.

Cycling on busy roads is a hazard, but what you're saying is that if a driver breaks the law to the detriment of you as a cyclist, you have no right to report them with evidence? Just accept that as a cyclist these things are going to happen?

Did I read that correctly? " Ive never had a negative response. Its only the idiots that jump out the cars and threaten violence..."

I never said that you had no right to report anyone. You are able to do as you choose, if you feel it is worth while.

 

[montyboy]

Unfortunately, that appears to be true.


But it shouldn't have to be. There are plenty of drivers who show that it is not difficult to drive safely around cyclists.

It will always be hazardous. I once road straight into a parked car when I was 15 by not looking where I was going,

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

I doubt if you could fix anything, except through creative editing.

Care to explain?

Simple dont edit my posts ! get it ?

I guess you can't explain your comment then.

You do seem extremely angry though. Sorry if it's something I did.

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

It will always be hazardous. I once road straight into a parked car when I was 15 by not looking where I was going,

Agreed, it can be hazardous if you don't look where you're going.

 

[lejogger]

Did I read that correctly? " Ive never had a negative response. Its only the idiots that jump out the cars and threaten violence..."

I never said that you had no right to report anyone. You are able to do as you choose, if you feel it is worth while.

Sorry if I wasn't clearer. I personally have never had a negative response to me asking to leave more room.

The idiots who jump out of cars to argue have never done so to me - i.e. the people I've spoken to weren't idiots, they just took a risk, made a mistake, or didn't realise the danger.

 

[lukesdad]

I guess you can't explain your comment then.

You do seem extremely angry though. Sorry if it's something I did.

Im not angry, ive asked you not to tamper with my posts its not big and its not funny.

 

[gaz]

Im not angry, ive asked you not to tamper with my posts its not funny and its not big.

 

[lejogger]

I never said that you had no right to report anyone. You are able to do as you choose, if you feel it is worth while.

Ok, but I'm certainly not talking about petty reporting for reporting's sake i.e. look at DF56 FUF - he made me brake hard... look at YG11 TUR, he shouted at me for riding out in primary to avoid a pothole...

What if your bike was written off in an accident and you were left without compensation because it was your word against the driver's? What if there were more serious health complications after an incident? What if you did come across one of those small handful of nutjobs who did decide to take a baseball bat to you for holding them up? If I had video footage in any of those incidents and more I'd feel it was worthwhile having the footage. I wouldn't be happy to take a bat to the nuts as a 'hazard' of cycling to work.

 

[lukesdad]

Mmm....... Now im angry !

 

[I like Skol]

Mmm....... Now im angry !

Now they are dragging you into their world! Take a deep breath and carry on with your life.

 

[lukesdad]

Now they are dragging you into their world! Take a deep breath and carry on with your life.

They know there is no chance of that ever happening

 

[Schneil]

Well then, strap on a helmet cam so you can show us what you're doing right that everyone else is doing wrong.

For I like skols info

Manchester helmet cammers on youtube

schneil (me)
wonkyknees
39stonecyclist
manchestercyclist
sh4keybloke
MrGrumpycyclist

I can go down the A6 in evening rush hour one night and do Manchester Piccadilly to Decathalon Stockport. It'll be scary viewing as Longsight and Levenshulme are horrible to cycle in. Levenshulme especially as Stockport Road (A6) is a busy road with cars parked at the side. So you can't do a secondary as you're always in a door zone, and you're going uphill so you can't go fast enough to go primary without people cutting you up. A cycling road to hell if ever there was one.

Some roads in this neck of the woods are really really bad. I deliberately take a longer route home to avoid as much trouble as possible! If you know if any decent roads, please let me know, I'd appreciate the "knowledge".

 

[classic33]

I asked because I thought it seemed an extreme measure just to capture the bad driving of others.

I was curious to find out if things really were that bad or whether it was perhaps a bit of an over reaction from a few.

It seems that maybe London has a character of its own!

If I'd had one in March 2005, when I was hit by a car, whose driver was convinced I was a bus, it would have made it easier for me to prove to him I wasn't. It would also have come in handy after the event when he came out & "told me" not to call the police.

Prior to that I'd always carried a single use 35mm. The company I worked for also started issuing them to the drivers. Cyclists are not the only one using cameras on the road by the way.

I don't live in London by the way.

 

[dawesome]

There are two million uninsured drivers on the road. There are 2 million people driving with an expired license. There are thousands of drivers with more than twelve points on their licence. There are drivers out there who think nothing of using their vehicle as a weapon. All the pressure for road users to film commutes comes from the most vulnerable- cyclists, and from serious professional companies that want to demonstrate their employee's behaviour is exemplary. What does that tell you?

 

[mr_hippo]

So some 'cyclists' are videoing their rides in case something happens - just like I wear clean underwear every day; I may get knocked down by a bus and do not want A&E staff to see I am wearing dirty underwear!

A question for all of you who post 'incident videos' - a very small percentage of people on this site - do you suffer the same 'fate' when walking in a busy street or supermarket? Do you have the mindset that this is my piece of pavement or aisle and I am not deviating from my route? Have you learnt tp co-operate with other pedestrians and shoppers/ Do you ever hurl abuse at other people because they are in your 'space'? If a pedestrian is on a collision course with you, do you sometimes go into a little dance - you go to your left and he goes to his right and this continues for a few seconds? Something like the Guerini incident on Alpe d'Huez or do you just barge past him/her?

How many have started threads like 'Assault in ASDA', 'Mayhem in Morrisisons', 'Carnage in Carrefour', 'TrolleyTerror in Tesco'? Is it because things like this do not happen or are they small insignificant incidents?

Do any of you 'cyclists' have a God given right to maintain speed and course on the Queen's Highway? Some of the overtake videos I have watched are so 'close' that the 'cyclist' had neither altered speed, applied brakes nor deviated from their course - if you were that concerned then you would do any of all of them but you do not - why?