Camsters

[rowan 46]

I'm with you on this one Monty because I don't experience all this cyclist/motorist agression that others claim is so prevalent and therefore can't be ars*d with the camera just for the 1 in a million chance that I get knocked off my bike and the guilty party decides to lie through their teeth about the incident.

Where do you live Monty? I live in the Manchester suburbs and have a calm commute everytime and would ride through central Manchester with no qualms but from the posts about problem and agressive incidents that 'flood' in from the London area I guess it's a different world down there?

I cycle in Birmingham, don't use a camera and don't argue with motorists. I have had occasions of motorists spitting at me, throwing macdonalds milk shake, cans,swerving into me me while honking their horns and laughing as they drive away. those are the unprovoked attacks where there has been no reason other than that they are knobs. More common is the general abuse which I get as another road user most times I haven't made a mistake just been too slow to get out their way but at least I understand that sort of road rage. It's not just london and it's not just cyclists. Rudeness on the roads is fairly endemic. Don't get me wrong I am not saying incidents happen to me all the time or even a lot but over 40 years of cycling it probably averages out to nearly one unprovoked incident every two years. As to the general road rage that's much more common. I should add that all but one of the senseless acts were carried out by the young lads who were passengers in the car with the connivance of the driver and there was one incident with a group of young women in a fiesta who shouted get a car then sprayed me with champagne (or more likely cava)

 

[dawesome]

How many have started threads like 'Assault in ASDA', 'Mayhem in Morrisisons', 'Carnage in Carrefour', 'TrolleyTerror in Tesco'? Is it because things like this do not happen or are they small insignificant incidents?

People don't die from trolley bumps:


Cyclist killed on superhighway in Bow
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182#story_continues_1
A man has died after a collision with a tipper lorry on a cycle superhighway in east London.

The cyclist, aged in his 50s, was involved in the accident on the roundabout at the Bow flyover during the morning rush hour.

Transport for London (TfL) said he was the first person to be killed on the city's cycling superhighway network.

The Metropolitan Police said a man had been arrested on suspicion of dangerous driving in connection with the crash.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182

 

[BentMikey]

Ah yes, commentary from Mr Hippo, who filmed himself doing an extremely risky coach undertake, and edited it out of his upload, but forgot to trim back far enough to avoid us seeing the approach. LOOL!

 

[BSRU]

What a question from someone who drives 30k a year and hardly cycles, must have been caught on a cyclists camera being a naughty boy.

:troll:

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

What a question from someone who drives 30k a year and hardly cycles, must have been caught on a cyclists camera being a naughty boy.

:troll:

I thought it was just me that was thinking that.

 

[jonny jeez]

Going back to the OP...I use a camera for a few reasons.

Firstly, I love riding and really enjoy posting snippets of the pleasures that I see for others to witness and enjoy. You will see that my channel mostly consists of this type of video....its a bit like taking photos of a holiday.

Otherwise, I "wear" a camera (sometimes its switched off) as both a deterrent and as a black box. Virtually all my footage is deleted upon reaching my destination (sometimes to my frustration when I then remember that I wanted to share something...the lake of poo comes to mind!).

I have a fairly large and obvious cam (Go Pro) and have had many (already) instances where I am sure others have acted a certain way because they know they are being recorded, in particular at junctions where a good "Glare" from the cam tends to make others pay attention...but this is only a possibility.

you are welcome to check out my channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/jonnygeez?feature=mhee

you'll see that not all camsters just seek evidence of poor driving .

 

[mr_hippo]

Ah yes, commentary from Mr Hippo, who filmed himself doing an extremely risky coach undertake, and edited it out of his upload, but forgot to trim back far enough to avoid us seeing the approach. LOOL!

You are talking about the clip on Lat Phrao Road with the junction with Chok Chai 4. Do you know the area at all? I thoiught not. Chok Chai 4 is not on any bus route and the mext bus stop is about 700 metres away. What was risky about it, left lane is for traffic going onto Chok Chai 4 and I was just using the left lane to get ahead of stationary traffic. I know the area well and the traffic pattern so, pray tell me, what was risky about it?

 

[lukesdad]

There are two million uninsured drivers on the road. There are 2 million people driving with an expired license. There are thousands of drivers with more than twelve points on their licence. There are drivers out there who think nothing of using their vehicle as a weapon. All the pressure for road users to film commutes comes from the most vulnerable- cyclists, and from serious professional companies that want to demonstrate their employee's behaviour is exemplary. What does that tell you?

Camera sales are going up. Nooo! more you tube links comming in the near future

 

[BSRU]

In Swindon, I'm outnumbered by car drivers uploading video's to YouTube, there is at least three of them and just one cyclist camera, me.

I think some drivers are starting to realise that people will lie their arses off to avoid an insurance payout and hence loss of their precious no claims bonus.

 

[BentMikey]

Yes, Hippo, that'll be why you tried to edit it out then. Convicted by your own opinion, I think.

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

For I like skols info

Manchester helmet cammers on youtube

schneil (me)
wonkyknees
39stonecyclist
manchestercyclist
sh4keybloke
MrGrumpycyclist

...

Sadly, Wonkyknees posted this comment on his last video (20th October):

Thanks to this prick. I'm calling a day on cycling, certainly until something is done to protect vulnerable road users. That'll be a long wait!

 

[lukesdad]

In Swindon, I'm outnumbered by car drivers uploading video's to YouTube, there is at least three of them and just one cyclist camera, me.

I think some drivers are starting to realise that people will lie their arses off to avoid an insurance payout and hence loss of their precious no claims bonus.

Do they get a reduction in their premiums for using one ?

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

Im not angry, ive asked you not to tamper with my posts its not big and its not funny.

Well, it wasn't supposed to be funny (or big, whatever that means). However, sorry that it annoyed you. I'll try to be more direct in making my points in future.

 

[BentMikey]

Yes, I imagine Lukesdad didn't like it because of the large element of truth in your edit.

 

[lukesdad]

Well, it wasn't supposed to be funny (or big, whatever that means). However, sorry that it annoyed you. I'll try to be more direct in making my points in future.

Thank you.