'Car up', 'Car back' & 'Car down'?

[Apollonius]

They do point out that there are local variations. (British Cycling that is.) I like the point they make about not over-doing the warnings. Cries of "wolf" are often counter-productive. If people are calling out every imperfection in the road, it becomes a running commentary and has little effect. Thus, when something DOES need mentioning it is lost in the clutter. I see Drago's point about the lack of emphasis on rear observation, but I think that might be covered elsewhere.

The most important (and difficult to communicate to and imbue in people) is assertiveness. You have to hold your ground on the road. People scattering in all directions when a car is "up" makes a group hard to manage safely. I speak as a regular "lanterne rouge" or sweeper-up.

 

[Drago]

Tin Pot discusses British Cycling...

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ETqncRvQHWk

 

[boydj]

'Nose' and 'Tail' used in this part of the world.

 

[Dirk]

'Nose' and 'Tail' used in this part of the world.

Now that's just confusing......

 

[jonny jeez]

When on a group ride, what do you call when a car is approaching from the front or the rear?
British Cycling says to call 'Car up' for one approaching from ahead and 'Car back' for one from the rear.
A mate of mine from up country is adamant that this is incorrect and that 'Car up' means from the rear; 'Car down' means from the front. He said it had always been that way and that British Cycling are wrong.
This caused me some confusion when we went for a ride together the other day!
So...........which one is correct?
Personally, I'm inclined to go with British Cycling as it seems more logical to me.
https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/knowledge/article/izn20121221-group-ride-0

I am sooooo glad I'm not the only one..I end up shouting car ahead and car behinbd because I can never remember in time.

sometimes I just shout CAR!!

 

[robjh]

After riding with different groups I'd agree that 'car down' = ahead is the most standard interpretation, though I hear a lot of 'car up' to mean the same thing. In our club we usually go for 'car back' for a vehicle behind, so despite the 'up/down' muddle there's not usually any doubt about what is meant.

 

[boydj]

Now that's just confusing......

'Nose' obviously means some kind of threat or obstacle ahead, and 'Tail'.......................

Simple really

 

[youngoldbloke]

Whatever, should be used in moderation, not shouted out for every vehicle on a busy main road, as sometimes happens with keen newcomers to club rides.

 

[Dirk]

'Nose' obviously means some kind of threat or obstacle ahead, and 'Tail'.......................

Simple really

I prefer 'Fore' and 'Aft'.

 

[Andy_R]

Isn't British Cycling the sports governing body? If so, shouldn't we follow their guidelines?

Does this mean that Bernie Ecclestone should tell drivers how to use the roads? I think not.

 

[derrick]

Get's on my nerves keep hearing this, I have eyes and ears, When and why did this start?

 

[Dirk]

Does this mean that Bernie Ecclestone should tell drivers how to use the roads? I think not.

Bernie Ecclestone is not motor sports governing body. He only controls the commercial rights to the F1 part of the sport.
The governing body is the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA)

 

[snorri]

If people are calling out every imperfection in the road, it becomes a running commentary and has little effect. Thus, when something DOES need mentioning it is lost in the clutter..

Indeed!
Reminds me of one of my very few group rides, conversation was all but impossible, at least when cycling solo my train of thought runs uninterrupted

 

[Drago]

I somehow don't think I'd take roadcraft advice from Jean Todt.

 

[Diggs]

Hahaha, I've heard it vary on a ride. If I can't see one in front, I assume it's coming from behind