Cheap Vs Expensive

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Crosstrailer

Well-Known Member
I would say don't get hung up on the argument about how much time an expensive bike will/won't shave off your commute or favourite ride. In my experience, its not about that. It is about ride enjoyment and user experience.

I have two bikes in regular use, a 1990 something British Eagle and a 2012 Spesh. If I rode both on the same route there may not be a huge difference in completion time, but the Spesh is a far more comfortable bike which is a heck of a lot nicer to ride than the Iron Eagle and I get far more pleasure from. Maybe it is worth looking at it from a different angle ?
 

Ethan

Active Member
This thread perfectly sums up why I've given up with cycling forums other than Weight Weenies (which is only good for a bit of bike porn.)

Cyclists aren't half an annoying bunch!
I'm not referring to OP, fyi.
 

Ethan

Active Member
Thank you for everyone’s input, I’m wondering how to justify spending +£500 on a bike to my GF and if I’m actually going to get any faster. I’m also planning some triathlons and would be embarrassed on my steel bike compared to the hardcore carbon TT bikes.

Is it your money, or do you share all the money?
If the latter isn't the case, why do you need to justify spending £500+ of your money on a bike?! It's your money, you worked for it. As long as there aren't more important things to be spending it on, saving for a deposit on a house, rent, diy or similar then surely you can do what you want with it?
My girlfriend, bless her, had to endure my unhappiness as I worked in a dead end job for a boss that treated me like crap working stupidly long hours all just to afford my two new bikes.
In the end I got sick and tired of the job, and left before I had enough money to get both bikes. Now my girlfriend isn't a cyclist, she thinks it's insane that I spend so much money on it. But she still chipped in £100 so I could afford my TT bike. Why? Because she could see how much I wanted it, how hard I worked and how happy it would make me. And even if it is a massive expense that she doesn't understand, she'd rather see me chuffed than settle for something slightly worse than I wanted.
Thank god I have her, the idea of having to justify what I spend my money on doesn't sound appealing.


If it's a case of sharing the money you both make, then perhaps it's a little different.
Still, I don't make my girlfriend justify spending £60 on a little bottle of smelly water, do you?
 
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Peter Armstrong

Peter Armstrong

Über Member
Is it your money, or do you share all the money?
If the latter isn't the case, why do you need to justify spending £500+ of your money on a bike?! It's your money, you worked for it. As long as there aren't more important things to be spending it on, saving for a deposit on a house, rent, diy or similar then surely you can do what you want with it?
My girlfriend, bless her, had to endure my unhappiness as I worked in a dead end job for a boss that treated me like crap working stupidly long hours all just to afford my two new bikes.
In the end I got sick and tired of the job, and left before I had enough money to get both bikes. Now my girlfriend isn't a cyclist, she thinks it's insane that I spend so much money on it. But she still chipped in £100 so I could afford my TT bike. Why? Because she could see how much I wanted it, how hard I worked and how happy it would make me. And even if it is a massive expense that she doesn't understand, she'd rather see me chuffed than settle for something slightly worse than I wanted.
Thank god I have her, the idea of having to justify what I spend my money on doesn't sound appealing.


If it's a case of sharing the money you both make, then perhaps it's a little different.
Still, I don't make my girlfriend justify spending £60 on a little bottle of smelly water, do you?

Share money: yes. Deposit on house: yes. Rent: yes

Smelly water ewww
 
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Peter Armstrong

Peter Armstrong

Über Member
The Fuji looks like s*** so I would take the QR if forced to choose. However, I wouldn't buy either of those bikes personally.

If you wanted a TT bike and that was your limit then yes? if not why not?
 

simon.r

Person
Location
Nottingham
I've come to the conclusion that there's a price point beyond which the improvements become so small as to be barely noticeable to me as an average punter. This applies to all sorts of things, not just cycling.

For example, I'm in the process of looking at new laptops and I reckon I'll spend about £500 on one. This, I think, will be a fair bit better than a £300 one, but it won't be as good as a £1500 one. The improvements the £1500 one has over the £500 one will be of little benefit to me, given that I'll only use it for surfing the net, the odd spreadsheet and so on.

The same with cycling. I'll be faster on a £1000 bike than a £99 BSO, but I doubt I'd notice much difference between a £1000 bike and a £5000 bike, given my skills and fitness level.

But each to their own.
 

Rob3rt

Man or Moose!
Location
Manchester
If you wanted a TT bike and that was your limit then yes? if not why not?

Personally speaking, at that price point, I wouldn't even look at TT bike's.

I would look at a road bike, this way you can ride it a lot more often (sure you can ride a TT bike a lot, but it doesn't feel right in traffic etc) and you can ride in groups (many groups will shun you if you turn up on a TT bike because of the associated dangers) and enter lots of different kinds of events etc. You can probably get more spec for your money with a road bike too and there is nothing stopping you from adding clip on Tri-bars to get a more aero position should you need to.

I would have said if you really want a TT bike, go with Planet-X stealth, but they have upped the price on this now. It was £1k and at that price was pretty much unbeatable but now it is priced at £1299.
 

Andrew_Culture

Internet Marketing bod
Thank you for everyone’s input, I’m wondering how to justify spending +£500 on a bike to my GF and if I’m actually going to get any faster. I’m also planning some triathlons and would be embarrassed on my steel bike compared to the hardcore carbon TT bikes.

I forget, are you commuting on this bike? Is so compare the cost of your bike to the cost of a car.
 
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Peter Armstrong

Peter Armstrong

Über Member
Personally speaking, at that price point, I wouldn't even look at TT bike's.

I would look at a road bike, this way you can ride it a lot more often (sure you can ride a TT bike a lot, but it doesn't feel right in traffic etc) and you can ride in groups (many groups will shun you if you turn up on a TT bike because of the associated dangers) and enter lots of different kinds of events etc. You can probably get more spec for your money with a road bike too and there is nothing stopping you from adding clip on Tri-bars to get a more aero position should you need to.

I would have said if you really want a TT bike, go with Planet-X stealth, but they have upped the price on this now. It was £1k and at that price was pretty much unbeatable but now it is priced at £1299.

I ride alot on my own at weekend, wanted a TT bike because I want to do triathlons, the angle of the seat post haveing somthing to do with saving muscle energy for the run, somthing like that. I would keep my old bike or commuting.
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
For example, I'm in the process of looking at new laptops and I reckon I'll spend about £500 on one. This, I think, will be a fair bit better than a £300 one, but it won't be as good as a £1500 one. The improvements the £1500 one has over the £500 one will be of little benefit to me, given that I'll only use it for surfing the net, the odd spreadsheet and so on.
OT: I wouldn't be spending my money on a £500 laptop. They tend to be slow for the specification, don't age well at all & if you're a heavy user they tend to break well within 3 years. Generally you need to be looking ay £800-1500 for something which is quick, well made & will last upwards of 5 years.
 
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