Guyincognito76
Senior Member
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- Llandudno, North Wales
The first two paragraphs of that article are the probably the best way of describing this kind of incident.
Chris Boardman's mum
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The first two paragraphs of that article are the probably the best way of describing this kind of incident.
jefmcg
Guru
Yes, and would they say a pedestrian died when they collided with a lorry?
Doesn't really matter. As long as the jury think they're sorry and it was all just a terrible accident they'll acquit or worst case, get a suspended sentence anyway.
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
Driver admits causing Carol Boardman's death by careless driving:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-driving-chris-mold-crown-court-a8686911.html
Stand by for a pathetic sentence.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-driving-chris-mold-crown-court-a8686911.html
Stand by for a pathetic sentence.
Arjimlad
Tights of Cydonia
- Location
- South Glos
A cop-out by the prosecution perhaps, but getting a jury to convict of the more serious charge seems to be very difficult indeed.
Rusty Nails
We remember
- Location
- Living in the slow lane
Is there a legal/technical reason why use of a phone placed on the passenger seat in a moving car is just classed as careless rather than dangerous. Seems dangerous to me.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
According to teh Wiki
A person is to be regarded as driving dangerously for the purposes of sections 1 and 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 if
However, the test the Crown Prosecution Service applies is whether there is a realistic prospect of conviction. Experience shows that juries made up of motorists do not convict motorists of such offences. So it never goes to trial for dangerous driving.
A person is to be regarded as driving dangerously for the purposes of sections 1 and 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 if
- the way he/she drives falls far below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver, and it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving in that way would be dangerous;[2] or
- if it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving the vehicle in its current state (for the purpose of the determination of which regard may be had to anything attached to or carried on or in it, and to the manner in which it is attached or carried) would be dangerous.[3]
However, the test the Crown Prosecution Service applies is whether there is a realistic prospect of conviction. Experience shows that juries made up of motorists do not convict motorists of such offences. So it never goes to trial for dangerous driving.
jefmcg
Guru
This is depressing.
I did a google search and this is a retrial. He was being tried in July along with his wife for perverting the course of justice because they deleted their phone records, and he was being charged dangerous and careless driving. A mistrial was directed, and she was freed.
No wonder he decided to plead guilty to the lesser charge:
Yesterday the court was shown three videos found on Mr Rosney’s phone which he appeared to have taken while he was driving.
In one, he filmed himself, with his young son next to him sleeping in the passenger seat, as he sang along to All Cried Out by Blonde.
The other two clips appeared to show the steering wheel and dashboard of his Mitsubishi pick-up truck, which he bought 11 days before the fatal collision, and the road ahead as he drove.
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There was a home CCTV camera that recorded the incident. Apparently Mrs Boardman fell off her bike 3 or 4 seconds before the pick up can be seen going up and down, presumably over her body. So it wasn't a collision of any sort, he ran over her.
(all from various articles on https://www.dailypost.co.uk)
I did a google search and this is a retrial. He was being tried in July along with his wife for perverting the course of justice because they deleted their phone records, and he was being charged dangerous and careless driving. A mistrial was directed, and she was freed.
No wonder he decided to plead guilty to the lesser charge:
Yesterday the court was shown three videos found on Mr Rosney’s phone which he appeared to have taken while he was driving.
In one, he filmed himself, with his young son next to him sleeping in the passenger seat, as he sang along to All Cried Out by Blonde.
The other two clips appeared to show the steering wheel and dashboard of his Mitsubishi pick-up truck, which he bought 11 days before the fatal collision, and the road ahead as he drove.
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There was a home CCTV camera that recorded the incident. Apparently Mrs Boardman fell off her bike 3 or 4 seconds before the pick up can be seen going up and down, presumably over her body. So it wasn't a collision of any sort, he ran over her.
(all from various articles on https://www.dailypost.co.uk)
Banjo
Fuelled with Jelly Babies
- Location
- South Wales
With this guy's attitude to driving it seems inevitable he would kill someone sooner or later.
When will the legal system start handing out sentences that would really act as a warning to other slipshod drivers?
When will the legal system start handing out sentences that would really act as a warning to other slipshod drivers?
Smokin Joe
Legendary Member
- Location
- Bare headed cyclist, Smoker
Sentences for causing death by careless or dangerous driving make no difference to the number of such instances. Everyone who drives in such a manner does so in the absolute certainty that they can retain full control of the vehicle in all circumstances and they will never cause an accident.
jefmcg
Guru
According to reports of the first trial, he finished his phone call to his wife 4 seconds before, so if he looked down to hang up his phone, he would have looked away just as Mrs Boardman fell off the bike.
Banjo
Fuelled with Jelly Babies
- Location
- South Wales
He also tried to delete his phone records after running her over.
