City of London Police in action

[Andy 71]

I can't seem to cycle from Kennington to Tooting without police sirens wailing past every ten/fifteen minutes during the evening rush hour.

Surely there must be a record somewhere of what those siren sounding police cars are speeding to and what the outcome is.

Well, I know that around Westminster they train Police drivers. Found this out once when following a red BMW with blues & twos - had a 'Police driver in training' sticker in the rear window.

But I have to wonder why I hear so may sirens - often only at busy times, or when there are long traffic queues.

When I hear sirens, and see an ambulance or fire engine, I tend to think 'Blimey - hope they get there on time'.

However, when I see a Police car with the same, I have to wonder for a moment whether they are responding to a real emergency, or whether the driver said to himself 'Sod it, I'm not waiting in this queue'.

 

[BrumJim]

On another forum read a post by a traffic cop. Got the call, and so put on the blues-and-twos, sped past lots of traffic, only then to be told to stand down, as his presence was no longer needed.

So he stopped at the next services for a quick break. And got LOADS of stick from someone he had just past, who thought that he was doing it to get to a cup of coffee quicker. And wouldn't listen to the real reason.

 

[Funtboy]

[quote name='swee'pea99']I generally find 'yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir' is a good starter for ten.[/QUOTE]

It sticks in the craw a bit but you are right. Worked for me.

 

[Arch]

On another forum read a post by a traffic cop. Got the call, and so put on the blues-and-twos, sped past lots of traffic, only then to be told to stand down, as his presence was no longer needed.

So he stopped at the next services for a quick break. And got LOADS of stick from someone he had just past, who thought that he was doing it to get to a cup of coffee quicker. And wouldn't listen to the real reason.

It was probably Crankarm....

My understanding is that when a call goes out, probably more than one car responds, since they are most likely to be roving about than say, a fire engine which is more likely yo be responding from a base. It makes sense that they get moving first, then sort out by radio who's going to cover it. I wouldn't want to be waiting for help while two or three cars discussed who was nearest...

But I have to wonder why I hear so may sirens - often only at busy times, or when there are long traffic queues.

Because it's in heavy traffic and busy times that sirens are most important, for any service?

And it's interesting that you assume an ambulance driver or fireman isn't going to abuse their position - why not? They're all human.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Er ...... outrageous slander!!! They are based upon my own experiences.

Obviously the three high profile cases are not - Stephen Lawrence although used to live about 1.5 miles from where he died was shameful advert for British policing and the former paratrooper who died in custody and Ian Tomlinson are all cases where some one has died either in police custody or they were owed a duty of care by the police who failed miserably.

As for my own comments regarding contact with police officers they are based on my own experiences and impressions of them. As I say there are undoutedly good police officers but the proportion must be so small as all but 2 of the ones I have had dealings with over the years are either so prejudiced, ignorant, on a power trip or so slothful they would lose a race against a tortoise.

You didn't give any of your own experiences. You just said "There may be one or two good police men and women but tbh they leave quite quickly. There is definitely a certain type of person that becomes a copper. Unfortunately the experiences I have had with them reporting cycling incidents or where I have needed them on other occasions their response and lack of professionalism has been awful.", then launched into a series of examples culled from the less intelligent bits of the tabloid press.

 

[Crankarm]

You didn't give any of your own experiences. You just said "There may be one or two good police men and women but tbh they leave quite quickly. There is definitely a certain type of person that becomes a copper. Unfortunately the experiences I have had with them reporting cycling incidents or where I have needed them on other occasions their response and lack of professionalism has been awful.", then launched into a series of examples culled from the less intelligent bits of the tabloid press.

You're forever going on about the tabloid press. Which of them do you read - The Sun or the DM amongst others?

 

[joebingo]

Anyway, Crankarms original post sounds more like its taken out of The Guardian!

 

[Crankarm]

Anyway, Crankarms original post sounds more like its taken out of The Graudian!

Oi! Outrageous slander

 

[joebingo]

AntiFa Monthly?

 

[addictfreak]

On another forum read a post by a traffic cop. Got the call, and so put on the blues-and-twos, sped past lots of traffic, only then to be told to stand down, as his presence was no longer needed.

So he stopped at the next services for a quick break. And got LOADS of stick from someone he had just past, who thought that he was doing it to get to a cup of coffee quicker. And wouldn't listen to the real reason.

Yes I have had a similar remark made to us 'Were your chips getting cold'

For us what we have is PDA (pre determind attendance) so you could have a number of appliances heading to an incident. When the first appliance arrives the O.I.C will decide whether he needs the other appliances. If not they are stood down and return to there former duties.

If suspect similar things happen in the police and ambulance service. But of course joe public just think your on a jolly.

 

[Arch]

I gather that one of the purposes of the York bike paramedics, apart from being able to be on the spot in a minute or so anywhere in the city centre, is to report back and stand down the vehicle which will be dispatched at the same time as the bike guy. If it turns out just to be something minor with no need for hospitalisation, it saves an ambulance crew wasting time turning up and finding that out for themselves, and they can be getting on with the next job.

 

[ACW]

meeting targets i think

http://http://news.sky.com/skynews/..._Penalty_Notice_For_Blowing_His_Nose_At_Wheel

 

[addictfreak]

meeting targets i think

http://http://news.sky.com/skynews/..._Penalty_Notice_For_Blowing_His_Nose_At_Wheel

Your right in some respects, targets have a lot to do with it. But you have to remember that the ambulance service is under staffed and under funded so meeting targets in certain areas can be extremely difficult for them. Hence rapid response cars, cycle paramedics and motorcycle paramedics, these all help to 'stop the clock'. But what you have to remember is that although you do not get a vehicle capable of carry a casualty, you are getting a trained paramedic whose quick intervention could make all the difference to whether someone lives or dies.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

You're forever going on about the tabloid press. Which of them do you read - The Sun or the DM amongst others?

"Forever", eh? Go on then ... point me at two or three of my recent posts in which I "go on" about the tabloid press. Incidentally, the troll icon is looking a bit threadbare, perhaps because you seem to use it every time someone has the temerity to hold a different opinion from yours.

 

[hackbike 666]

Well, I know that around Westminster they train Police drivers. Found this out once when following a red BMW with blues & twos - had a 'Police driver in training' sticker in the rear window.

Is it like one of those "Baby on Board" stickers?