Commuting in a short dress - Recommended!

[Mad at urage]

Absolutely, it's been like a perv fest..oh post photos etc etc.
When does that change? Come on fellas you're all cyclists - let's be respectful to women please? We don't like to be treated as a block of meat on fora or in life.

I've been wolf-whistled, asked for photographs, been told "lovely legs, can I stroke them?" by women (and occasionally by men), never had a problem with it and see no reason why it doesn't (apparently) work both ways.

I'm an adult and can cope with remarks and advances, I too can say "no thanks": I'd expect an adult female to be able to handle it too.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

How would you guys feel if it was your mum/sister on this board? Would you all make the same comments?
Let's make cycling and the forum a bit more inclusive please?

I would have no issue with making such comments. They are adults and can differentiate between humour and crude/lewd behaviour!

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I've been wolf-whistled, asked for photographs, been told "lovely legs, can I stroke them?" by women (and occasionally by men), never had a problem with it and see no reason why it doesn't (apparently) work both ways.

I'm an adult and can cope with remarks and advances, I too can say "no thanks": I'd expect an adult female to be able to handle it too.

 

[rsvdaz]

I've been wolf-whistled, asked for photographs, been told "lovely legs, can I stroke them?" by women (and occasionally by men), never had a problem with it and see no reason why it doesn't (apparently) work both ways.

Lucky sod!

 

[ttcycle]

I've been wolf-whistled, asked for photographs, been told "lovely legs, can I stroke them?" by women (and occasionally by men), never had a problem with it and see no reason why it doesn't (apparently) work both ways.

I'm an adult and can cope with remarks and advances, I too can say "no thanks": I'd expect an adult female to be able to handle it too.

What response do you get when you politely say no thanks?

When I've said that I've got a barrage of nastiness calling me a ****ing bitch. That's not quite the same is it?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

What response do you get when you politely say no thanks?

When I've said that I've got a barrage of nastiness calling me a ****ing bitch. That's not quite the same is it?

I find this amazing. I know many female cyclists who do not get treated like this. Where do you live? Do you look like a supermodel?

 

[Becs]

You see this is it, it's hard to draw those demarcations when you use 'charms' (lol the word made me smile, I don't know why) in one context, there's sometimes expectations to use it in another context. Actually, as you mention being female can be a hinderance..why is this? that's what dissapoints me.

In my field (veterinary/academia) women are paid less than men (about £6000 less on average based on last years SPVS survey). We're also less likely to become partners/senior academics as it assumed we will have babies and come back part time. Clients still assume that a male vet is great until proven crap but a female vet is crap until proven good (in large animal medicine at least). It's just the way it is.

So yes if getting my cleavage out gets me a few free drinks and putting on a skirt when I cycle gets me treated a little better I don't have any problem doing it. If I get abuse from ignorant drivers I just ignore it.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

In my field (veterinary/academia) women are paid less than men (about £6000 less on average based on last years SPVS survey). We're also less likely to become partners/senior academics as it assumed we will have babies and come back part time. Clients still assume that a male vet is great until proven crap but a female vet is crap until proven good (in large animal medicine at least). It's just the way it is.

So yes if getting my cleavage out gets me a few free drinks and putting on a skirt when I cycle gets me treated a little better I don't have any problem doing it. If I get abuse from ignorant drivers I just ignore it.

Sadly that is true in just about all sectors of industry

 

[ttcycle]

London

It's not even just cycling mate - it's not pleasant.

And yes I am pretty but I find it's often a hinderance (and haha before anyone starts-sod off to photo requests!!)

 

[ttcycle]

Sadly that is true in just about all sectors of industry

That's why I question all these 'jokes'.

Becs I am sad to read that but not surprised.
Getting equality is a difficult thing and on a subtle level getting people on a cycling forum to question the 'jokes' is a start.

 

[Becs]

Sadly that is true in just about all sectors of industry

Yep. It sucks, but I don't think it should preclude a bit of light hearted banter.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

London

It's not even just cycling mate - it's not pleasant.

And yes I am pretty but I find it's often a hinderance (and haha before anyone starts-sod off to photo requests!!)

I wonder how many ladies on here experience similar behaviour. I lived and worked in London for many years and did not witness such behaviour towards Ladies when they were out and about safe for the occasional drunken letch!

 

[Angelfishsolo]

Yep. It sucks, but I don't think it should preclude a bit of light hearted banter.

Neither do I. Hence joining in.

 

[ttcycle]

I wonder how many ladies on here experience similar behaviour. I lived and worked in London for many years and did not witness such behaviour towards Ladies when they were out and about safe for the occasional drunken letch!

This is the thing though, experiences between women as well as between men and women and men and men will vary because we're all very different in appearances etc.

An added complication is I am Chinese, so that makes the whole idea of 'exoticness' a factor. It's very sad.

 

[Becs]

London

It's not even just cycling mate - it's not pleasant.

And yes I am pretty but I find it's often a hinderance (and haha before anyone starts-sod off to photo requests!!)

I can concur - Grace is very pretty :-)