Adam4868
Legendary Member
I take offence at saying we're thick !
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mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
CHU Liege (there are other CHUs). But I agree the report isn't crystal. I'll see if tv sheds more light.
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
Adam4868
Legendary Member
More to the question WTF are the police joining in !
I can't go into a "dirty" area without PPE. I hid a box of masks yesterday morning, properly hid too and only told the other A&E porter. 20 mins or so later I needed one, they were gone! Flippin doctors.
So much has been and continues to be wasted (not by medical staff) and I wish I could tell you how and why that happens and also, how very simple it would be to put a stop to that waste. Another problem will be that although staff will be screaming for certain items of PPE (as well hiding them) somehwere in a dark out of the way place, boxes of it will be sat there........
More positively, despite the headlines and pictures, for every virus patient struggling for life, there will be many, many more sat up in bed in general wards, chatting to others, having treatment and very soon to be discharged.
So much has been and continues to be wasted (not by medical staff) and I wish I could tell you how and why that happens and also, how very simple it would be to put a stop to that waste. Another problem will be that although staff will be screaming for certain items of PPE (as well hiding them) somehwere in a dark out of the way place, boxes of it will be sat there........More positively, despite the headlines and pictures, for every virus patient struggling for life, there will be many, many more sat up in bed in general wards, chatting to others, having treatment and very soon to be discharged.
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deptfordmarmoset
Full time tea drinker
- Location
- Armonmy Way
This might help: https://www.rtbf.be/info/regions/li...e-zentech-a-prouve-son-efficacite?id=10478960
The final quote makes it clear that the Belgian government hasn't approved their use.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
but says it is validated? I think this is like it has passed trials but isn't yet approved for purchase.
BoldonLad
Not part of the Elite
- Location
- South Tyneside
Exactly so.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Belgian rtbf tv news: lockdown extended to 3 May but some restrictions lifted including DIY and garden stores reopen, care homes to allow one visitor per resident against manager objections except Namur province which has blocked it, questions over statistics, exams cancelled, summer festivals all cancelled, the Charles de Gaulle incident mentioned above, Venice reopens bookshops, Denmark reopens schools, gas-plasma mask-washing process developed in Mons
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roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
Great to see the UK leading evidence based approach to drug treatments
Note the moderate expectations, in total contrast to Trumpian trumpeting.
Horby says it’s unlikely they will come up with a quick cure. “We haven’t got anything like a magic bullet,” he said. “I think we have to temper people’s expectations about these drugs. It’s possible some might have an effect, but it’s likely to be modest. I think what we’ll be looking at in terms of making a significant impact will be moving on to combinations once we know of things that work. If we combine antiviral and anti-inflammatory drugs, they might have a bigger impact.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/world-biggest-drug-trial-covid-19-uk
Note the moderate expectations, in total contrast to Trumpian trumpeting.
Horby says it’s unlikely they will come up with a quick cure. “We haven’t got anything like a magic bullet,” he said. “I think we have to temper people’s expectations about these drugs. It’s possible some might have an effect, but it’s likely to be modest. I think what we’ll be looking at in terms of making a significant impact will be moving on to combinations once we know of things that work. If we combine antiviral and anti-inflammatory drugs, they might have a bigger impact.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/world-biggest-drug-trial-covid-19-uk
glasgowcyclist
Charming but somewhat feckless
- Location
- Scotland
I was including them in my astonishment.
If ever a gathering needed dispersed it was that. Maybe not so easy as telling a guy he can't be out in his own front garden or threatening to fine a lone journalist for filming the police though.
Interesting read highlighting the ddifference in German response to CV19
http://www.eurointelligence.com/public/
Summary : decentralized planing is better
http://www.eurointelligence.com/public/
Summary : decentralized planing is better
Following on from @kingrollo post about a report in guardian from a paramedic about more people dying at home not being reported and increase use of DNR's in the community.
I've asked around the ambo's and it's happening all over the place.
Use of ROLE is now become common place on every shift.
I've asked around the ambo's and it's happening all over the place.
Use of ROLE is now become common place on every shift.
Levo-Lon
Guru
I've just had a chat with my manager about us masking up.
Shortage of clinical masks, we have a weeks supply of the right masks.
We may need to wear them if we get it here..I'm of the opinion that will be too late.
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kingrollo
Guru
Yes the infection rate is on the rise again as well from yesterday's states.
Interesting read in today's metro where an Austrian official basically give the UK as an example of how not to handle the coronavirus outbreak.
