Coronavirus outbreak

[perplexed]

It was gone within minutes of me seeing it

The Cabinet Office have Tweeted to say they are going to be investigating the Tweet.

You'd think that perhaps a more important priority would be to investigate Cummings and Johnson, given the damage they've most likely done to the Government's own advice.

 

[mjr]

It seems that current research studies show that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine don’t work for Covid19 and may even do harm for some patients.

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1432

WHO suspends trials after more evidence of the above www.france24.com/en/20200525-who-halts-study-of-coronavirus-drug-hydroxychloriquine-trump-touted

 

[mjr]

It's not in the English version of the site, but the Franco-German tracking app "stopCovid" has got the green light (feu vert) from France's National Centre for IT and Freedom. Of course it's decentralised, unlike the NHSX one - did you need to ask? https://www.france24.com/fr/2020052...feu-vert-à-l-application-de-traçage-stopcovid

 

[tom73]

Lot of news noise around the idea of local lockdowns following on from what Hancock had to say yesterday.
Heard the communities secretary this morning talking about how the test , track and trace will allow this happen.
"if the system works as we hope it can be used on quite a micro level"
So we are going to open up even more and still have no idea if this will work or not. Is this virus on the government payroll?
If so it's one easy job just sit back and let everyone else do the work for you.

 

[mjr]

Study suggests only six months immunity after recovery https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/25...-may-only-last-just-six-months-says-new-study

 

[raleighnut]

Study suggests only six months immunity after recovery https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/25...-may-only-last-just-six-months-says-new-study

Not only that but the virus has shown an incredible ability to mutate so any immunity to a particular 'strain' of it may not produce an antibody response to a different one.

 

[marinyork]

PHE and MHRA ban home tests temporarily https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...alt-coronavirus-home-antibody-test-deliveries but hypocritically buy the same ones for NHS workers.

It isn't clear whether the very soon better ones being available is hot air, empty promises or good intentions.

 

[DaveReading]

Not only that but the virus has shown an incredible ability to mutate so any immunity to a particular 'strain' of it may not produce an antibody response to a different one.

I've read reports that it isn't mutating any more than the average virus (if their is such a thing).

Can you point to any evidence either way?

 

[Rezillo]

Study suggests only six months immunity after recovery https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/25...-may-only-last-just-six-months-says-new-study

That's actually talking about four strains of the common cold, with an as yet untested assumption that Covid-19 as another coronavirus will behave the same way.

 

[raleighnut]

I've read reports that it isn't mutating any more than the average virus (if their is such a thing).

Can you point to any evidence either way?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...-coronavirus&usg=AOvVaw2zBRcTwYzEe-w8ogFb0mjE

 

[mjr]

That's actually talking about four strains of the common cold, with an as yet untested assumption that Covid-19 as another coronavirus will behave the same way.

More encouragingly, the usual professor (Yves Coppieters) was saying on the lunchtime TV news today that there may be some mutual immunity between SARS-nCov-2 and other coronaviruses. Studies have started to check this. However, the test-and-trace approach is being credited with Belgium's new cases continuing to fall (137 yesterday, a fall of 61), a week into phase 2 of lockdown relaxing.

 

[marinyork]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52820592

Track and trace to start on Thursday.

I think as with the app there could the risk of alert fatigue. What happens to somone if over a 2 or 3 month period the tracers or app tells someone to isolate multiple times for 14 days? It's ludicrous. As the virus chain is tested at the start and circles will go around, this could go round in loops. If you have symptoms you are tested. If you don't you aren't even if deemed high risk by the tracers lol. 50 50 gamble on whether someone is asymptomatic.

Scientists think it'll stop between 5 and 15% of cases.

 

[marinyork]

Isle of Man does it differently

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/27/isle-of-man-accused-authoritarian-lockdown-measures

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52820592

Track and trace to start on Thursday.

I think as with the app there could the risk of alert fatigue. What happens to somone if over a 2 or 3 month period the tracers or app tells someone to isolate multiple times for 14 days? It's ludicrous. As the virus chain is tested at the start and circles will go around, this could go round in loops. If you have symptoms you are tested. If you don't you aren't even if deemed high risk by the tracers lol. 50 50 gamble on whether someone is asymptomatic.

Scientists think it'll stop between 5 and 15% of cases.

And what happens if you're told to self-isolate but you feel a pressing need to load the family in the car and drive to a secluded cottage?

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

And what happens if you're told to self-isolate but you feel a pressing need to load the family in the car and drive to a secluded cottage?

That's absolutely fine. Although if your vision is a bit dodgy, go for a 30 mile test drive first, to make sure you can drive safely.