Coronavirus outbreak

[mjr]

I looked at Android market share for first half of 2020. Android 5.0 and below has 15% of the market share. So the app will (in theory) work on 85% of the android phones currently in use.

But 16ish% are Huawei which are excluded https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/hua...be-no-1-smartphone-maker-thanks-to-china.html

Presumably the blockade on China getting the exposure software also affects the various Xiaomi brands (itself, Redmi, Oppo and more) so that's another 8% gone. https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile/europe

So that’s high enough for it to be an useful tool if enough people install it and use it and carry phone when out and about.

I still doubt that it's attractive enough to get much use.

 

[marinyork]

Advertise for the bluetooth LE on this app is an average every 3.6 minutes. Which is curious given they are trying to measure 15 mins. So a average of 4 data points for 15 mins, wonder if this ramps up if someone is closeby.

 

[mjr]

An interesting article on the risk looking as exposure and time

https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

Last updated May. Misses some obvious measures against its concerns like closing toilet lids.

 

[marinyork]

2 to 4 metres is 'medium' exposure. It measures the entire sequence in terms of deciding whether someone is high risk which doesn't surprise me as I have an idea how the algorithm works and processing of data points is done.

I am not actually sure what the BBC has written is 100% correct.

 

[fossyant]

Yes as I said yesterday this weighting is very very high, especially as all current socialising I am doing is outdoors.

What's this 'socialising' you talk about. Only seen family, my wife's friend, and that's it. Billy no mates !

 

[Skibird]

Mine's 'HIGH' - but then a mile from I am is dark blue on the Covid case map and in first part postcode: https://phe.maps.arcgis.com/apps/we...-IVwMbqnpUGUheHnlspDDuAg_WFxtz9Y3_MNV9DlzmDsk

Here in the Isle of Wight, the risk has just gone up to Medium (on both our Huwawei phones, which this and 1st app worked fine on), and Islanders are up in arms about the test centres here being full of mainly mainlanders, many of which are having positive results, with no extra care being taken when they are coming over.

 

[mjr]

Here in the Isle of Wight, the risk has just gone up to Medium (on both our Huwawei phones, which this and 1st app worked fine on), [...]

Curiouser and curiouser. Do your phones have "exposure notifications" in the settings, maybe under Wellbeing?

 

[Skibird]

Curiouser and curiouser. Do your phones have "exposure notifications" in the settings, maybe under Wellbeing?

Doesn't appear to.

 

[raleighnut]

What's this 'socialising' you talk about. Only seen family, my wife's friend, and that's it. Billy no mates !

Aye similar here since march.

 

[marinyork]

What's this 'socialising' you talk about. Only seen family, my wife's friend, and that's it. Billy no mates !

Unfortunately quite a few on this thread could do with more social contact than has gone on recently. Especially as we face a long winter. I'm intensely relaxed about very small groups meeting outdoors if they keep 2 metres apart.

I haven't been in a person's house since feb. I suspect that isn't the case for many out there, especially neighbours.

I was supposed to be going back to the office, which has got knocked back. As a result of that I was trying to get used to going back into town and indoors in August and early Sep (mostly cafes, shops, 2 indoor pub visits). This has mostly been alone or socialising with 1 other person.

Aside from that I have had social contact with others, but that's related to two lots of volunteering I do where there is a social aspect to it, as there would be in other spheres. Indoors, that's ceased for one and in the other case back online. I don't actually agree with the latter. Even then it was groups of six when even under the new rules it is allowed to be 15.

 

[marinyork]

Aye similar here since march.

Is that because no one wants to meet outside or travel?

 

[fossyant]

Curiouser and curiouser. Do your phones have "exposure notifications" in the settings, maybe under Wellbeing?

Two colleagues just joked, that the app is showing them as high risk, sat WFH with a cup of tea.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Hmm, so far as I can see, the Scottish App has 'ON' and 'OFF'

 

[tom73]

Two colleagues just joked, that the app is showing them as high risk, sat WFH with a cup of tea.

I hope it's covid secure work place

 

[marinyork]

I hope it's covid secure work place

This is fascinating. I think there may have been an edict from the council or inspections since the changes that have just come in. The cafe I'm sat in alone (been past and in a few times) has completely reorganised the seating and ripped even more out. The only downside to this is it may encourage bigger groups.

This venue I believe was covid secure, so it's interesting it's been tightened up considerably.