Coronavirus outbreak

[roubaixtuesday]

Before you criticise the Swiss for allowing skiing, remember that Glenmore was open until 21 December and Cairngorm Mountain was open to locals for skiing until Christmas Eve.

I refer you to the answer I gave earlier.

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/coronavirus-outbreak.256913/post-6248698

 

[mjr]

Moreover, it seems https://www.ski-glenshee.co.uk/ is still open now.

Can't really blame them for trying to keep working if it is allowed and government won't bail them out. It should be possible to ski without infecting people, with a little care. It's not inherently riskier than cycling, is it? It's the stuff around it like lifts and catering that has to change.

 

[Rusty Nails]

When this is all over, have another go at it. Not in Switzerland. It's good fun but extremely harsh on your personal finances.

When I was younger, had good knees, had kids and little money I could never afford to go skiing.

When I got older, had money and the kids left home my knees were shot so could not afford to go skiing, for a different reason.

I always consoled myself that you could never get any good at it in just a couple of weeks a year.

And those Brits in Verbier were complete tossers.

 

[slowmotion]

Moreover, it seems https://www.ski-glenshee.co.uk/ is still open now.

Can't really blame them for trying to keep working if it is allowed and government won't bail them out. It should be possible to ski without infecting people, with a little care. It's not inherently riskier than cycling, is it? It's the stuff around it like lifts and catering that has to change.

It's a whole lot different from cycling. Try walking up a thousand feet of snow slope wearing seal skins on the bottom of your skis.
Most people take ski lifts and it's not a trivial problem to 'socially distance' on lifts while you're sweating and panting from the last ski run. It's madness.

 

[mjr]

It's a whole lot different from cycling. Try walking up a thousand feet of snow slope wearing seal skins on the bottom of your skis.

In terms of covid and distancing, obvs.

Most people take ski lifts and it's not a trivial problem to 'socially distance' on lifts while you're sweating and panting from the last ski run. It's madness.

Looks trivial: max one household or bubble per lift vehicle.

 

[slowmotion]

In terms of covid and distancing, obvs.


Looks trivial: max one household or bubble per lift vehicle.

Here's what the Swiss seem happy with......

https://www.thelocal.ch/20201124/covid-19-is-it-safe-to-ski-in-the-swiss-alps-this-season

 

[Archie_tect]

Italian skiers in February 2020 created an early Covid spike in ignorance... the Verbier skiers know exactly what they are inflicting on the people they're returning to.

 

[marinyork]

South Africa has responded to their latest variant leading to increased cases by tightening restrictions and imposing a curfew. Will we see such measures along with compulsory mask wearing outdoors here or is that too "un-British"?

We had ryanair tv adverts saying that the vaccine was here, book holidays! Does that help?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

We had ryanair tv adverts saying that the vaccine was here, book holidays! Does that help?

I got an email from Trivago who I've used before for holidays. They said it was time to make dreams real and book a summer 2021 break now -


in Birmingham, Manchester or Inverness

 

[pawl]

Ryan Air .Latest TV ad Jab and go Pillocks.

 

[Yellow Fang]

I am beginning to wonder whether the Oxford Astrazeneca vaccine is going to be in time now. It's cheap and easier enough to store that it might have been useful in developing parts of the world, as well as here. But the new, more infectious strains might infect most people before they can get vaccinated.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I am beginning to wonder whether the Oxford Astrazeneca vaccine is going to be in time now. It's cheap and easier enough to store that it might have been useful in developing parts of the world, as well as here. But the new, more infectious strains might infect most people before they can get vaccinated.

It depends how we act.

If we put in place measures right now to suppress the virus, we'll probably be able to out- vaccinate it.

If not, it'll outrun us.

Alas, the govt is currently making the same mistake yet again. Let's hope they change.

 

[mjr]

I am beginning to wonder whether the Oxford Astrazeneca vaccine is going to be in time now. It's cheap and easier enough to store that it might have been useful in developing parts of the world, as well as here. But the new, more infectious strains might infect most people before they can get vaccinated.

There are still two good things about the OxAZ vaccine: it might give longer immunity than actually catching covid; and there is a factory in India already speculatively making huge quantities of it since July because it is easier to make and to store than the two mRNA ones. https://www.dnaindia.com/india/repo...9-vaccine-by-dec-says-adar-poonawalla-2856412

 

[fossyant]

I think the Swiss had thought that Swiss people would like to ski over the Xmas holidays (my friend Gaby is a great skier for example). What they also expected was that people living in areas where there's a near total lockdown wouldn't travel and that once they did, they'd follow local laws and go through quarantine. They clear didn't understand the Brits.

Just like all those Londoners who fled London before Christmas to share the virus around again.

 

[mjr]

Just like all those Londoners who fled London before Christmas to share the virus around again.

Yeah. Not even the British Government expects the Brits to behave like Brits.

Or maybe they do and yet again leaving a gap between rule changes being announced and taking effect was a deliberate attempt to spread the new strain more widely just before the "Christmas Day Is Covid Party Day" event and produce a plausible alternative explanation for the GDP drop to the latest gov.uk acts of self-harm and incompetence? "We're sorry Boris's economy is 8% smaller than expected but it is not his fault. It is due to that COVID thing getting worse again due to feckless Londoners and not people like Boris's dad."