Cycle Super-Highways
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From Mayor's Questions:
*Superhighways (1)*
*Question No: 2692 / 2009*
Jenny Jones
Will you guarantee that all the necessary safety improvements identified on the first two cycle superhighways, including facilities included in plans for the LCN+, will be completed in time for the opening?
*Answer from the Mayor:*
Proposals for each route, including safety measures, have been identified in consultation with the relevant boroughs. The route review process, completed in July 2009, incorporated recommendations from previous LCN+ studies and has generated an end to end solution for each Superhighway. I am determined to introduce the first two trial Cycle Superhighways by Summer 2010. Where very substantial engineering work or costly and time consuming land acquisition have been highlighted as a potential solution to address individual barriers to cyclists, alternatives have been identified. I also wish to introduce innovative measures to improve safety for cyclists such as trialling convex mirrors at traffic lights to help drivers of large vehicles to see along the length of their vehicle when turning left.*
*Superhighways (2)*
*Question No: 2693 / 2009*
Jenny Jones
Can you provide a list of all the proposed LCN+ changes which coincide with the proposed superhighways routes?
*Answer from the Mayor:*
For the pilot routes, the route assessments of each Cycle Superhighway included consideration of other planned schemes in Local Implementation Plan (LIP) and Transport for London Road Network (TLRN) programmes, including LCN+. Where these schemes are currently unfunded but achievable within the Cycle Superhighways budget, they will be taken forward as part of the pilot routes’ implementation. Equally, where schemes in existing programmes are funded and moving forward, they maybe modified to meet Cycle Superhighway requirements.
The alignment of the remaining Cycle Superhighway routes is to be confirmed following further consultation with highway authorities and other stakeholders.
*Superhighways (3)*
*Question No: 2694 / 2009*
Jenny Jones
Can you provide a breakdown of the number of serious injuries and fatalities for cycling casualties on each of the Superhighway routes over the latest available three year period?
*Answer from the Mayor:*
Based on the current definition of the Cycle Superhighways and not including where the routes leave the public highway (through parks etc.)the following number of cyclist were killed or seriously injured:**
*Fatal:*
2008 = 8
2007 = 4
2006 = 5***
Serious*:
2008 = 84
2007 = 77
2006 = 66
*Cycling Superhighways*
*Question No: 2713 / 2009*
Valerie Shawcross
Will road space be allocated to the cyclist from motorised traffic on your planned cycling Superhighways?
*Answer from the Mayor:*
Cycle Superhighways will be designed to minimise impacts on other road users, while ensuring the provision of safe and continuous routes for cyclists. The aim of the scheme is to increase the number of cyclists on London’s roads without adversely affecting traffic flows or traffic and bus journey times.
TfL will closely monitor the Cycle Superhighways, and will collect data on journey times, traffic flows and speeds. This data will be used to assess the impact of the Cycle Superhighways and identify any changes that need to be made as part of the roll out.
http://thebikeshow.net/cycling-questions-and-answers-from-the-mayor-of-london-oct-09/
*Superhighways (1)*
*Question No: 2692 / 2009*
Jenny Jones
Will you guarantee that all the necessary safety improvements identified on the first two cycle superhighways, including facilities included in plans for the LCN+, will be completed in time for the opening?
*Answer from the Mayor:*
Proposals for each route, including safety measures, have been identified in consultation with the relevant boroughs. The route review process, completed in July 2009, incorporated recommendations from previous LCN+ studies and has generated an end to end solution for each Superhighway. I am determined to introduce the first two trial Cycle Superhighways by Summer 2010. Where very substantial engineering work or costly and time consuming land acquisition have been highlighted as a potential solution to address individual barriers to cyclists, alternatives have been identified. I also wish to introduce innovative measures to improve safety for cyclists such as trialling convex mirrors at traffic lights to help drivers of large vehicles to see along the length of their vehicle when turning left.*
*Superhighways (2)*
*Question No: 2693 / 2009*
Jenny Jones
Can you provide a list of all the proposed LCN+ changes which coincide with the proposed superhighways routes?
*Answer from the Mayor:*
For the pilot routes, the route assessments of each Cycle Superhighway included consideration of other planned schemes in Local Implementation Plan (LIP) and Transport for London Road Network (TLRN) programmes, including LCN+. Where these schemes are currently unfunded but achievable within the Cycle Superhighways budget, they will be taken forward as part of the pilot routes’ implementation. Equally, where schemes in existing programmes are funded and moving forward, they maybe modified to meet Cycle Superhighway requirements.
The alignment of the remaining Cycle Superhighway routes is to be confirmed following further consultation with highway authorities and other stakeholders.
*Superhighways (3)*
*Question No: 2694 / 2009*
Jenny Jones
Can you provide a breakdown of the number of serious injuries and fatalities for cycling casualties on each of the Superhighway routes over the latest available three year period?
*Answer from the Mayor:*
Based on the current definition of the Cycle Superhighways and not including where the routes leave the public highway (through parks etc.)the following number of cyclist were killed or seriously injured:**
*Fatal:*
2008 = 8
2007 = 4
2006 = 5***
Serious*:
2008 = 84
2007 = 77
2006 = 66
*Cycling Superhighways*
*Question No: 2713 / 2009*
Valerie Shawcross
Will road space be allocated to the cyclist from motorised traffic on your planned cycling Superhighways?
*Answer from the Mayor:*
Cycle Superhighways will be designed to minimise impacts on other road users, while ensuring the provision of safe and continuous routes for cyclists. The aim of the scheme is to increase the number of cyclists on London’s roads without adversely affecting traffic flows or traffic and bus journey times.
TfL will closely monitor the Cycle Superhighways, and will collect data on journey times, traffic flows and speeds. This data will be used to assess the impact of the Cycle Superhighways and identify any changes that need to be made as part of the roll out.
http://thebikeshow.net/cycling-questions-and-answers-from-the-mayor-of-london-oct-09/
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A few more detials about CSHs:
Cycle Superhighways concept.
The basic concepts for CSHs are listed below:
(a) workplace offerings, such as business events, tailored packages for
employees and provision of cycle facilities;
employees and provision of cycle facilities;
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home end offerings, such as marketing campaigns, tailored packages to individuals and residential cycle parking;
home end offerings, such as marketing campaigns, tailored packages to individuals and residential cycle parking;(c) cycle support for school leavers by encouraging students to cycle to
work once they leave school/college;
work once they leave school/college;
(d) targeting organisations with large numbers of HGV and freight drivers
who will travel along the CSHs by introducing measures to help avoid
collisions with cyclists;
who will travel along the CSHs by introducing measures to help avoid
collisions with cyclists;
(e) blue branding of routes – all relevant CSH infrastructure, including
surfacing material, signage etc. will be coloured blue;
surfacing material, signage etc. will be coloured blue;
(f) wide, continuous cycle lanes (new or improved), typically 1.5 metres
to 2.5 metres in width;
to 2.5 metres in width;
(g) continuous lanes through junctions, i.e. through junctions and slip
lanes where traffic joining or leaving has to cut across cyclists
travelling ahead;
travelling ahead;
(h) mirrors at traffic lights, known as Trixi mirrors, to prevent collisions
by revealing cyclists and pedestrians hidden in lorries' blind spots.
Their use is subject to Government approval and TfL is currently in
talks with the Department for Transport to secure the go ahead
following a series of accidents involving lorries turning left at
junctions;
by revealing cyclists and pedestrians hidden in lorries' blind spots.
Their use is subject to Government approval and TfL is currently in
talks with the Department for Transport to secure the go ahead
following a series of accidents involving lorries turning left at
junctions;
(i) cycle-friendly studs/reflectors at potential conflict locations to
reinforce cycle lane markings and to raise awareness of cyclists to
turning motor vehicle drivers;
reinforce cycle lane markings and to raise awareness of cyclists to
turning motor vehicle drivers;
(j) entry treatments (raised carriageways) at side road junctions to
minimise the speed of turning vehicles;
minimise the speed of turning vehicles;
(k) the closure of some side roads (with cycle access retained) to minimise conflict;
(l) possible diversions to avoid difficult junctions;
(m) speed restrictions, where locations have high activity/high risk and
reduce speed limit to 20mph where viable; and navigation measures, such as ‘spurs’ on roads off the CSH leading to other popular destinations and alternative routes through quiet roads, including links to London Cycle Network plus routes.
reduce speed limit to 20mph where viable; and navigation measures, such as ‘spurs’ on roads off the CSH leading to other popular destinations and alternative routes through quiet roads, including links to London Cycle Network plus routes.
(n) other popular destinations and alternative routes through quiet roads,
including links to London Cycle Network plus routes.
including links to London Cycle Network plus routes.
Anybody here got an interest in the projected CS6 route (basically the 176 route Penge - Sydenham - Forest Hill - East Dulwich - Camberwell - Elephant & Castle joining CS1)?
Some interesting challenges on the route and it would be good to see it user rather than planner led. That's if we think it a good enough idea. At least we will have the experience of CS1 to evaluate it ...
Some interesting challenges on the route and it would be good to see it user rather than planner led. That's if we think it a good enough idea. At least we will have the experience of CS1 to evaluate it ...
CopperBrompton
Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
- Location
- London
(l) possible diversions to avoid difficult junctions;
If one line could sabotage the entire project, it's that one.
CSHs make sense only if they take direct routes. As soon as they start going round the houses, they become a nonsense.
HJ
Cycling in Scotland
- Location
- Auld Reekie
Ben Lovejoy said:
That is something most planners just can't get their heads round.
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Ben Lovejoy said:
That's a problem - you will have some cyclists battling through the major junctions (which are not officially part of the CSHs, but are de facto CSHs) and you will have others, likely a minority, going round the houses on a de jure CSHs to avoid junctions. That's the problem with TFL's soft measures - they will simply not tackle problem junctions and make them more cycle friendly.
I also understand, although it is still being discussed, that the blue CSH lanes will go through bus lanes - not a good idea as will it be left hooks a go go.
The blue lane is supposed to be 1.5 to 2.5 meters wide - without being too cynical I'd imagine it will be more like the former for most of the route.
I'm not sure what they'll do about parking/unloading on the red routes that make up much of the CSH out of hours.
I'm glad that they are talking about closing some of side roads on the route - down through Tooting there are dozens of these conflict points.
As it stands, I have not seen any evidence of the CSH infrastructure on my route (unless you include the addition of a 100m bus lane at Balham)and May is the anticipated opening date.
Davidc
Guru
- Location
- Somerset UK
Cycle Paths
There, that's
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
That said, bus lane paths are not a bad idea. They are perhaps the least bad compromise, provided the cyclists are shown via road markings to stick right out in the middle of the bus lane and not stay in the gutter.
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BentMikey said:
Historically, the problem with cycle lanes within bus lanes is that they are about sharing the bus lane with the bus (the bus has no need to straddle the white line). This usally means the cycle lanes are narrow. If the CSH lanes are 2.5m + wide then it will be less of a problem. My feeing is we will be getting 1.5 or so which will be shoot - I hope I am proved thoroughly wrong.
If I had my way, I would simply paint the whole bus lane blue...
BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
Origamist said:
LOL, that's what I was trying to imply.
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Lurker said:
In principle, I do not want any CSH cycle lanes within a bus lane as it has the potential to corall cyclists unnecessarily. I'd rather have 3 medium sized bike sharrows in the bus lane - one to the left, one in the centre, and one to the right.
However, all of this may well be a moot point as they are still umming and ahhing over the idea (unless anyone knows different?)...
