CycleChat Ivestigates - Alien Life

[Punkawallah]

To put right what once went wrong!

But as they existed to come back, then they must have already been ‘saved’ to do so.

 

[Punkawallah]

its not a warp field yet but if they can make stuff move FTL on a small scale who knows whats possible in the future
https://www.ecoticias.com/en/laser-surpassed-speed-of-light/7079/

This is what physicists from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and the University of Rochester have done using plasma, a hot stream of ionized particles. They used one laser to knock off electrons from hydrogen and helium ions and then changed the scenario of the second laser passing through the plasma. The result? To achieve this, the group velocity of the light pulses was controlled to be above 30 percent of the speed of light in a vacuum. Although the individual photons in the light pulse behave as described by the laws of physics, the wave moved faster than permitted.

All those people fretting about the speed of light, I assume so they can copy Star Trek et al at some point in the future. No-one seems worried about how they will know when they get to where they want to go?

 

[Drago]

What about generation ships, or bio ships that arrive at their destination and then create new aliens from DNA records stored in the HAL9000 unit?

 

[figbat]

What about generation ships, or bio ships that arrive at their destination and then create new aliens from DNA records stored in the HAL9000 unit?

Or cryostasis ships?

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Or cryostasis ships?

Let it go, let it go

 

[cyberknight]

Let it go, let it go

As long as they don't mix up the reindeer and human DNA at the other end .....

 

[figbat]

As long as they don't mix up the reindeer and human DNA at the other end .....

Which brings another option - teleportation.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Which brings another option - teleportation.

Which was invented specially by the makers of Star Trek to enable the story to move quickly without faffing around with shuttlecraft.

It has as much basis in science as do Mr Spock's ears.

There's a good book "the physics of Star Trek" that pondered these matters. Warp drives, dilithium crystals and so on.. Much of it was "yeah maybe". Teleportation was a flat no.

 

[classic33]

Which was invented specially by the makers of Star Trek to enable the story to move quickly without faffing around with shuttlecraft.

It has as much basis in science as do Mr Spock's ears.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/impossible-quantum-teleportation

https://www.unilad.com/technology/n...leportation-oxford-university-408839-20250212

 

[Dogtrousers]

https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/impossible-quantum-teleportation

https://www.unilad.com/technology/n...leportation-oxford-university-408839-20250212

Hate to beak it to you but people consist of more than one fundamental particle.

 

[markemark]

https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/impossible-quantum-teleportation

https://www.unilad.com/technology/n...leportation-oxford-university-408839-20250212

…both of which clearly state that it’s only passing data, very quickly.

 

[classic33]

…both of which clearly state that it’s only passing data, very quickly.

Which is what any computer deals with. Even those that are Star Trek as referenced by Dr. McCoy.

 

[markemark]

Which is what any computer deals with. Even those that are Star Trek as referenced by Dr. McCoy.

Sooooo, not teleportation at all then. Just very fast passing of data.

 

[Alex321]

Which was invented specially by the makers of Star Trek to enable the story to move quickly without faffing around with shuttlecraft.

It had been around in Science Fiction long before Star Trek. Apparently the first references being in the 19th century, though the first I had been aware of was Arthur C Clarke.

Even on TV, Buck Rogers used teleportation in 1939.

It has as much basis in science as do Mr Spock's ears.

True

There's a good book "the physics of Star Trek" that pondered these matters. Warp drives, dilithium crystals and so on.. Much of it was "yeah maybe". Teleportation was a flat no.

Based on what we currently know.

 

[FishFright]

It had been around in Science Fiction long before Star Trek. Apparently the first references being in the 19th century, though the first I had been aware of was Arthur C Clarke.

Even on TV, Buck Rogers used teleportation in 1939.


True


Based on what we currently know.

You'd have to be able to measure the postion and speed of every fundemental particle and photon of energy in a living thing and then recreate every single one with 100% accuracy and instantly.

Considering it is impossible to neasure the postion and speed of a quantum particle simultaneously this makes it as impossible as it possible to get.