Cyclist and speeding laws help please.

[Schneil]

You obviously haven't seen a Surrey School Run!

Sorry a bit off topic, but I saw a sign today that said
"Children please dive carefully"
I'm wondering if a comma was missing somewhere?

 

[Sore Thumb]

Sorry a bit off topic, but I saw a sign today that said
"Children please dive carefully"
I'm wondering if a comma was missing somewhere?

Ah, but did you see the sign in the local swimming baths?? ;-)

Or

Was the sign by the road and it means that motorists drive too fast and the children need to 'dive' out of the way?

 

[Norm]

Sorry a bit off topic, but I saw a sign today that said
"Children please dive carefully"
I'm wondering if a comma was missing somewhere?

And, possibly, an 'r'?

 

[Schneil]

And, possibly, an 'r'?

Oh yeah haha, sorry my bad typing, it was "drive" not "dive"

 

[simon.r]

Good point, I wasn't considering theft.. but if it's non motor vehicle related the answer is still No

In *theory* a criminal court can order disqualification for any offence: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/6/section/146

In practice I'd assume there has to be a good reason, but I wonder if that reason could be bicycle related?

 

[Cubist]

Sorry a bit off topic, but I saw a sign today that said
"Children please dive carefully"
I'm wondering if a comma was missing somewhere?

Was it a junior football academy?

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

[QUOTE 2183550, member: 45"]You can't break a speed limit that doesn't apply to you.[/quote]
But where's the fun in that?

 

[400bhp]

Is this a 3 word game?

 

[Cubist]

Too literal, it is to do with perception. Everyone knows that the urban speed limit is 30 unless otherwise stated. As a cyclist you can break that speed limit and people might be shocked to learn that you can do so without legal consequence.

[QUOTE 2183573, member: 45"]Ignorance doesn't change facts.[/quote]
Well, yebbutt, of course it's much better to be able to exceed the speed limit AND work one right up the stroppy twats who think we shouldn't be allowed to.

 

[HLaB]

but some would argue that you don't get many peds in a field or the rockies.

Or in Chelsea

 

[jarlrmai]

Can you be done for exceeding speeds on shared use paths/cycle routes?

 

[Cubist]

No.

 

[Drago]

OK, what an exciting lunch break that was. Trawled through the CPS Legal Database to find about 230 pieces of legislation involving riding bicycles, and that's ignoring the Con & Use Stuff, the point-of-sale-or-supply legislation etc.

I was wrong in the sense you can't be slapped for speeding. You guys have already dientified the careless and dangerous offcences, and if anyone is interested I have the guidelines for what constitutes 'dangerous' in this regard.

I was right in the sense you can not receive endoresements for a cycling offence or non-compliance. To simplify it, in order to get endorsements you need to be driving/riding "in accordance" with a licence, ie, quite lawfully driving a car for example, but commiting anohter offence such as spoeeding. Alternatively, you need to be driving "otherwise in accordance", ie, driving/riding with no licence, or on/in a vehicle which your licence doesnt cover. For examply, driving a car while holding only a motorcycle licene would fit in this category.

On a sickle you're neither riding "in accordance" with a licence, because you don't need one to ride it, and you're not "otherwise in accordance" because there is no applicable licence who's terms you can breach. So you can't receive an endorsable FPN, or have points imposed by a court.

I'm going to try and find some of this from a source that I can copy and paste onto here, or you could delve into ask.thepolice.com

 

[byegad]

-Out on the open highway (60mph limit) we do not have any alpine type descents long enough to allow us to get to this speed in this country do we? I've managed 50mph descending in Wales but thats as fast as I've been, and that felt fast enough on a flexy old steel frame from the 80's. But even if you were able to top 60mph I guess out in quiet rural areas it would be hard to prove you were a danger to anyone but yourself so not sure any attempt to fine would be successful. Personally I think you'd deserve a medal!

A recumbent trike riding friend told me she had touched 70mph coming off Shap Fell with a full camping load onboard. Given I've topped 50mph I believe her. On the Tour de France TV coverage they frequently show the TV Motorbike's speedo on descents and I've seen 115kph on one of those. If a stick bike can do it a recumbent certainly can.

 

[BentMikey]

Here's LeeW's 72mph max descent on ROAM (Ride Over AMerica). Last year a whole flock of velomobiles rode across the US in a month in an organised tour.



I doubt he was breaking the US speed limit though, whatever it was on that highway?