Dangerous horse riders again

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Linford

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How fast were you going on your approach to the bridge, and how fast was the van going ?

Edit, you were both cycling, and not in the Q7
 
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brokenflipflop

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How fast were you going on your approach to the bridge, and how fast was the van going ?
It was just a steep hill, no bridge. I know there will be some mathematical genius here who will use some formula to work out that this whole thing was impossible so I'll try and be as accurate as possible but please bare in mind that I can only guess certain aspects because it all happened relatively quickly. We were riding at roughly 6-9 MPH approaching the top of the hill. I was looking down a lot as I was grinding the cranks and struggling a bit but I'd already seen the horses 10-15 seconds before the van. I noticed the van slowing down behind the horses when the rider on the outside waved him through and he sped past at 25-35 MPH when I jumped out the way onto the pavement and the wife just fell sideways because she only noticed at the last second.
 

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It was just a steep hill, no bridge. I know there will be some mathematical genius here who will use some formula to work out that this whole thing was impossible so I'll try and be as accurate as possible but please bare in mind that I can only guess certain aspects because it all happened relatively quickly. We were riding at roughly 6-9 MPH approaching the top of the hill. I was looking down a lot as I was grinding the cranks and struggling a bit but I'd already seen the horses 10-15 seconds before the van. I noticed the van slowing down behind the horses when the rider on the outside waved him through and he sped past at 25-35 MPH when I jumped out the way onto the pavement and the wife just fell sideways because she only noticed at the last second.

Where are the Pavements in Rivington?
 

400bhp

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I take my hat off to you if you would have been "nice" as you and your wife cheat death by a whisker due to the stupidity or even "a half-hearted moment" from a silly girl on a horse.

What amazes me is is the bile and bitterness of some people on here when someone innocently chooses to buy a certain kind of vehicle and then conversely, the very same people accuse a cyclist of "not being nice" when a couple of idiots on horses and a dick in a van try and kill them.:crazy:

Speak for yourself. :whistle:
 

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This thread is almost priceless. I have an awkward feeling that we are all trolling each other in the confident belief that no-one else knows we are doing so.

How much indignance can a career troll show to a trolling buffoon without letting on that he is really trolling himself, whilst at the same time feigning ignorance of the likelihood that almost every post on the thread is typed through tears of hilarity?

Don't ask me to explain that question. I barely understand a word of it myself...
 
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brokenflipflop

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Well, she was clearly just on her high horse.

Over Sheep House Lane by any chance?
I've been on the road loads of times but I'm rubbish at the names of them.
 

Linford

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It was just a steep hill, no bridge. I know there will be some mathematical genius here who will use some formula to work out that this whole thing was impossible so I'll try and be as accurate as possible but please bare in mind that I can only guess certain aspects because it all happened relatively quickly. We were riding at roughly 6-9 MPH approaching the top of the hill. I was looking down a lot as I was grinding the cranks and struggling a bit but I'd already seen the horses 10-15 seconds before the van. I noticed the van slowing down behind the horses when the rider on the outside waved him through and he sped past at 25-35 MPH when I jumped out the way onto the pavement and the wife just fell sideways because she only noticed at the last second.


I'm not trying to diminish what must obviously be a fairly frightening experience, just more to what actually happened, any chance you can post up a link to google street view to see this ?

It sounds to me like the van was driving like a bit of a cock, and nailed it with the frustration of being held up for the two horse riders.

From a legal standpoint, the girls are perfectly entitled to ride 2 abreast on the road, and usually do this if one of them is being schooled in traffic. There is also the possibility that the girls felt intimidated by his presence (if he was tailgating them)

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Horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles. Be particularly careful of horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles especially when overtaking. Always pass wide and slowly. Horse riders are often children, so take extra care and remember riders may ride in double file when escorting a young or inexperienced horse or rider. Look out for horse riders’ and horse drivers’ signals and heed a request to slow down or stop. Take great care and treat all horses as a potential hazard; they can be unpredictable, despite the efforts of their rider/driver.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069858

If the van driver had been on the ball, he would have exercised caution when passing them, done so slowly, and also to the fact that there were also 2 other cyclists in the opposite carriageway who he nearly took out.

Ultimately, He should have checked to see there was nobody coming the other way when he crossed the white line.

I feel that your blame is a little misplaced in this instance.
 

400bhp

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It sounds to me like the van was driving like a bit of a cock, and nailed it with the frustration of being held up for the two horse riders.

Spot on.

Everyone who is driving in that area knows that cyclists, horse riders and a lot of pedestrians are milling about.

DamagedSandal vented his frustration on a defenceless young girl.
 
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brokenflipflop

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Spot on.

Everyone who is driving in that area knows that cyclists, horse riders and a lot of pedestrians are milling about.

DamagedSandal vented his frustration on a defenceless young girl.
It's possible the horses obscured us from the view of the WVM and she still waved him bye. That said, the WVM then totally disregarded our presence as he sped past. As for defenceless young girl....ignorant young girl....stupid young girl...what are you doing in charges of a 1 tonne beast on a public road young girl....sorry kids, your mum is dead because a defenceless young girl waved on a van, giving the impression the right of way was clear young girl....:headshake:
 
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