brokenflipflop
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Correct.You couldn't make this thread up could you
Dangerous horse riders again
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brokenflipflop
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I think the risks far outweigh the benefits and I'm usually in the "health and safety gone mad" brigade. It's a bit like giving a kid a couple of grenades and a machine gun and saying be careful when you go near them...here's an idea TAKE IT OFF THEM !
Be careful near drink drivers, they can be as unpredictable as a horse !
Cellphone, you're good you are :-)
Or transistor radio ((my grandad told me about them) that's the radios not the transvestites))
brokenflipflop
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I slip small joke into serious thread. I am still wanting explain my truth.
I've just had a peek at that lane. It does look tricky.
I'm amazed that a WVM had the room to get past two horses being ridden two-abreast on Sheep House Lane, Rivington Lane or Horrobin Lane. That took some skill from the driver and an extraordinary degree of control from the equestrians.
That the VVM managed to rattle his vehicle up to the 25-35mph you mention, from having been stuck behind the horses, is some feat. I imagine he'd binned the asthmatic 1.6 diesel and dropped in a V8. A lot of people do that.
Altogether, you were very unlucky. As another poster has said (and you've confirmed) you couldn't make this stuff up.
Any earlier suggestion by me that there was anything even resembling trollery on this thread was very wide of the mark.
I take it that WVM failed to stop and that neither you nor Mrs You nor the equestrians got the registration. That's a shame, because four witnesses would be very hard to gainsay if there was a case of passing two-abreast horses at 25-35 mph, crossing the centre line and causing two cyclists into unplanned dismounts.
The book would be thrown so massively for that offence that WVM would have a book-shaped dent in his skull for years.
Altogether, I add my sympathy to that already shown by other contributors. Today has been beastly for you and you deserve a hug.
I'm amazed that a WVM had the room to get past two horses being ridden two-abreast on Sheep House Lane, Rivington Lane or Horrobin Lane. That took some skill from the driver and an extraordinary degree of control from the equestrians.
That the VVM managed to rattle his vehicle up to the 25-35mph you mention, from having been stuck behind the horses, is some feat. I imagine he'd binned the asthmatic 1.6 diesel and dropped in a V8. A lot of people do that.
Altogether, you were very unlucky. As another poster has said (and you've confirmed) you couldn't make this stuff up.
Any earlier suggestion by me that there was anything even resembling trollery on this thread was very wide of the mark.
I take it that WVM failed to stop and that neither you nor Mrs You nor the equestrians got the registration. That's a shame, because four witnesses would be very hard to gainsay if there was a case of passing two-abreast horses at 25-35 mph, crossing the centre line and causing two cyclists into unplanned dismounts.
The book would be thrown so massively for that offence that WVM would have a book-shaped dent in his skull for years.
Altogether, I add my sympathy to that already shown by other contributors. Today has been beastly for you and you deserve a hug.
Peteaud
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Tranny is still a bloke dressing as a woman.
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I slip small joke into serious thread. I am still wanting explain my truth.
wax - on - wax - off
Linford
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It's possible the horses obscured us from the view of the WVM and she still waved him bye. That said, the WVM then totally disregarded our presence as he sped past. As for defenceless young girl....ignorant young girl....stupid young girl...what are you doing in charges of a 1 tonne beast on a public road young girl....sorry kids, your mum is dead because a defenceless young girl waved on a van, giving the impression the right of way was clear young girl....
Are you sure she didn't just put her hand up to acknowledge the fact he did initially take the time to queue behind her (until he lost his patience). If these girls just sat there and didn't acknowledge the van driver for waiting, they get accused of being an ignorant toff, and if they then do put their hand up and say thanks, that is seen as an explicit instruction to go and run over the nearest unwitting cyclist.
My eldest kid had more road sense on horseback back at the age of 14, but that was because she had spent the previous 10 years on horseback being instructed before being let loose on her own than her younger sister has now at 19 and learning to drive (who has never really had much road experience of her own)
Also, you are a bit awry on the '1 tonne' beast by a good margin. I've weighed all of our horses and pony's on a set of veterinary equine scales and the heaviest horse is 475kg a thoroughbred at just under 16 hands. I very much doubt that a shire horse would get up to 1 tonne in weight.
brokenflipflop
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The van had room to pass 2 horses because they were taking up one side of the road and the WVM used all of our side of the road. I think the equestrians were too young and too female to apply any degree of control other than trundle along oblivious to our plight whereas the driver may have shown slightly more skill as he did put his foot down and steer around the beasts.I've just had a peek at that lane. It does look tricky.
I'm amazed that a WVM had the room to get past two horses being ridden two-abreast on Sheep House Lane, Rivington Lane or Horrobin Lane. That took some skill from the driver and an extraordinary degree of control from the equestrians.
That the VVM managed to rattle his vehicle up to the 25-35mph you mention, from having been stuck behind the horses, is some feat. I imagine he'd binned the asthmatic 1.6 diesel and dropped in a V8. A lot of people do that.
The van had just arrived behind the beasts, it was still moving forward, it hadn't stopped dead although I couldn't say for sure what size engine was in the van and I don't know if it had been tweaked or not. I didn't get the reg, I was busy diving whilst shouting insults at the horse rider and then checking the wife's plight.
Linford
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Linford said: ↑
Corrected this for you BFF
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Horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles. Be particularly careful of horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles especially when overtaking. Always pass wide and slowly. Horse riders are often children, so take extra care and remember riders may ride in double file when escorting a young or inexperienced horse or rider. Look out for horse riders’ and horse drivers’ signals and heed a request to slow down or stop. Take great care and treat all horses as a potential hazard; they can be unpredictable, despite the efforts of their rider/driver.
Horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles. Be particularly careful of horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles especially when overtaking. Always pass wide and slowly. Horse riders are often children, so take extra care and remember riders may ride in double file when escorting a young or inexperienced horse or rider. Look out for horse riders’ and horse drivers’ signals and heed a request to slow down or stop. Take great care and treat all horses as a potential hazard; they can be unpredictable, despite the efforts of their rider/driver.
Corrected this for you BFF
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lol .. the avatar is much more interesting than the detail in my post .. Just Enjoy it
brokenflipflop
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So it was the van driver who was at fault for heeding the request to pass and yet your 215 passage demands that trained drivers who have taken lessons and passed a test take instructions from kids on horses. If that is the case which clearly it is, then the rider was at fault for giving the WVM an instruction that was clearly quite dangerous.
Linford
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I would suggest that you vented your spleen at the nearest person in that situation, and not at the real villain of the piece. The girls on horseback were exercising their right in law to ride on the road double file where the felt necessary. The fact you don't feel that the road traffic laws as they are written should apply to any given stretch of road you happen to be on is hardly anyone else's problem than your own.
I think you would benefit from re reading the highway code so you are aware of the obligations which you yourself and others on the road are bound to obey. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse at the end of the day when you have to stand before the judge if your actual grasp of the written law differs from what is in the statute books (which it appears to be from what I've read)
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