Dangerous horse riders again

[Norm]

I'm aware it's an animal and as such it's unpredictable, just like dogs. 1 x 15 year old kid on back of 1 x unpredictable animal = high risk. Simples love.

I may have been reading a different story but the one I thought that you posted at the start of this thread had several problems which were caused by a bad driver in a van, but nothing which was attributable to the poor girl that you vented at. Did she lose control of her horse? Did the horse do anything other than plod along in a straight line? Did the horse cause your injury?

It doesn't matter whether she waved him through or not, that is completely irrelevant. The responsibility for forcing you off the road is entirely, from beginning to end, with the man driving the van which made the overtake.

I'm guessing that you didn't vent at the van driver because he was either gone before you got a chance to react, or he was a he who was driving a bigger vehicle than you were in so you couldn't bully him. Either way, the high risk arose from the man who couldn't control his vehicle. I, therefore, propose that anything larger than a 250cc motorbike be banned from the road at any time when there might be a horse rider or a cyclist on the road.

 

[GrasB]

BFF, thanks for a laugh. Now run along & go get a clue about road users responsibilities before showing your face around me again. I'll give you a head start with this nugget of information: Any road user is entirely responsible for their actions regardless of any directions given by any other party, including a police officer.

 

[400bhp]

Is knackeredfootapparelforthebeach still banging his drum..

You abused a little girl. She might be scarred by the experience for the rest of her life.

 

[400bhp]

I'm guessing that you didn't vent at the van driver because he was either gone before you got a chance to react, or he was a he who was driving a bigger vehicle than you were in so you couldn't bully him.

And/or he has an affinity with white van man.

 

[400bhp]

It's scary ! You ride 2 abreast HAVE TO LEARN TO DRIVE on the roads and one of the horses is quite nervous and while the horse is YOU ARE "learning" you're putting all the other road users at risk. If you and yer mate want to go on horses LEARN TO DRIVE, why take them DO IT on public roads? why can't you ride them DRIVE around a paddock or field, then your friends horse can be as nervous as he YOU likes and the only people at risk are the 2 individuals YOU who chose to ride the horses LEARN TO DRIVE in the first place.

 

[brokenflipflop]

Can anyone explain why it's necessary to have horses on public roads (other than to give them and the rider the experience and practice)

 

[400bhp]

Why is the pope catholic?

Why do bears sh1t in the woods?

 

[Linford]

Can anyone explain why it's necessary to have horses on public roads (other than to give them and the rider the experience and practice)

Because the roads may be the only place which the horses can be exercised properly due to lack of off road facilities, or alternatively because they link local bridle path routes up.

Now can you answer the question I put above ?

 

[brokenflipflop]

It doesn't matter whether she waved him through or not, that is completely irrelevant. The responsibility for forcing you off the road is entirely, from beginning to end, with the man driving the van which made the overtake

Completely irrelevant ? I think it may have been relevant if:

a) He acted on her signal (rightly or wrongly)
b) If the van hadn't had the obstacle of two large and slow beasts travelling side by side there would not have been a problem.

No need to respond because I'm right

 

[Norm]

Completely irrelevant ? I think it may have been relevant if:

a) He acted on her signal (rightly or wrongly)
b) If the van hadn't had the obstacle of two large and slow beasts travelling side by side there would not have been a problem.

The obstacle could have been any one of a million things, cyclists, pot holes, road works, bin lorries, pedestrians, the one thing that would have been the same is that the obstacle is irrelevant and the man driving the van was at fault.

Can anyone explain why it's necessary to have horses on public roads (other than to give them and the rider the experience and practice)

Because they have been there for millennia, because they will be there for millennia after the oil has dried up, because they are individuals enjoying individual freedom and because, if you get your way and remove them, then you can guarantee that they will not help us in the battle with the real dangers which we face, which comes from those with who drive like they own the roads and generally don't even own the vehicles they are driving.

Here's one for you. As the horse rider did nothing wrong and didn't come off, unlike the cyclists in your tale, then...

Can anyone explain why it's necessary to have cyclists on public roads (other than to give them and the rider the experience and practice)

 

[col]

Completely irrelevant ? I think it may have been relevant if:

a) He acted on her signal (rightly or wrongly)
b) If the van hadn't had the obstacle of two large and slow beasts travelling side by side there would not have been a problem.

No need to respond because I'm right

You are right. But Iv learned from examples just as this, not to take any notice of others waving you through or passed just for this reason. I think the van driver will be more carefull next time , instead of taking the pass signal as ok to do. Experience gained, without injury luckily.

 

[Becs]

Completely irrelevant ? I think it may have been relevant if:

a) He acted on her signal (rightly or wrongly)
b) If the van hadn't had the obstacle of two large and slow beasts travelling side by side there would not have been a problem.

No need to respond because I'm right

No you are not, you are an ignorant pr*ck who needs to read the highway code and leave poor children on their ponies alone.

 

[brokenflipflop]

Why is the pope catholic?

Why do bears sh1t in the woods?

Farnworth ?

 

[400bhp]

what?

 

[brokenflipflop]

No you are not, you are an ignorant pr*ck who needs to read the highway code and leave poor children on their ponies alone.

Listen darlin', if the kids want to mix it on main roads with the grown-ups and be partly responsible for nearly getting a grown-up killed then they'll have to put up with the occasional bollocking. Now toddle off and make yourself pretty