Dangerous horse riders again

[Pigo]

The van had room to pass 2 horses because they were taking up one side of the road and the WVM used all of our side of the road. I think the equestrians were too young and too female to apply any degree of control other than trundle along oblivious to our plight whereas the driver may have shown slightly more skill as he did put his foot down and steer around the beasts.

I guess the WVMAN was too male to apply any degree of common sense to his overtaking.....?

 

[G-Zero]

As the horses were on the other side of the road to us i.e. next to us, that's precisely when the van went, we had nowhere to go other than dive on the pavement. I'm only stating the facts.

Will they be the same facts as in your opening post "....when they were about 20yds away I noticed WVM waiting behind the horses, when the youngster on the horse nearest the middle of the road, waved WVM through...."

That only puts even more onus on WVM.

 

[snorri]

shouted at the girl to the effect "you stupid little cow"

That was a good start, but I do hope you included Road Tax in your tirade, they don't like it when you remind them they have no rights on the roads without taxation.

 

[Lisa21]

http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/4466962.Horse_rider_left_traumatised_after_road_accident/
I've had 25 years of experience on the road and I've ridden horses before - not on roads. I wouldn't ride a horse on a road for the same reason I wouldn't let my dog near a 1 year old child...I wouldn't trust it, like I wouldn't trust a horse and I wouldn't trust a kid on a horse. I wouldn't personally feel safe for me, other road users or the horse if I went on the road on the back of a horse. I'm sure the kids who do it aren't as cautious as me and they are quite blaze about it which to me is in the nature of youngsters. We all know what 17 year old drivers are like and they've passed a test. What road tests to horse riders have?

From the sound of it you havent actually "ridden" a horse have you?? You may have sat on one, but you obviously cannot ride. If you learned to ride-properly-you would be able to control the horse. If you got to know the horse, seeing it as a living breathing creature rather than an animated form of transport then you would know how it was likely to react in various situations and be able to act accordingly. For the record, If I ride with my friend we often ride 2 abreast with me on the outside as hers is a young horse, slightly nervous, and while he is learning it gives him and his rider confidence and is safer for all concerned. So I would stick to your bikes, and your cars, and leave the handling of anything more advanced to those who are capeable, as it sounds as though you can just about manage to look after yourself half the time.

 

[MontyVeda]

From the sound of it you havent actually "ridden" a horse have you?? You may have sat on one, but you obviously cannot ride. If you learned to ride-properly-you would be able to control the horse. If you got to know the horse, seeing it as a living breathing creature rather than an animated form of transport then you would know how it was likely to react in various situations and be able to act accordingly. For the record, If I ride with my friend we often ride 2 abreast with me on the outside as hers is a young horse, slightly nervous, and while he is learning it gives him and his rider confidence and is safer for all concerned. So I would stick to your bikes, and your cars, and leave the handling of anything more advanced to those who are capeable, as it sounds as though you can just about manage to look after yourself half the time.

yeah but, Tabitha... girl.. unpredictable beast... erm, bin men... the wife should have done it, er... they tried to kill me!

I think I'm turning into my dad!

 

[Bicycle]

Thanks BFF, that was fun.

Your amusing tales bring the troll out in quite a few of us. This thread seems dead now, but I hope you can think up another.

All that horse poo about a Transit coming past two horses side-by-side on a lane at 25-35mph will have to be thought out a little more for the next one.

We all love to be outraged by tales of ghastly driving or horsemanship, but it needs to be just the right side of credible.

I take my hat off to you for having a crack at it nonetheless. A noble effort! :troll::troll::troll::troll::troll::troll:

 

[brokenflipflop]

[QUOTE 1720346, member: 45"]The van driver was the problem, not the horse rider.

Then again, maybe you should have got out of the way. After all, it's what you're expecting the riders to do so you could lead by example.[/quote]
If you read my post I think I made it quite clear that we got out of the way, ergo, we did lead by example. Please keep up !

 

[brokenflipflop]

From the sound of it you havent actually "ridden" a horse have you?? You may have sat on one, but you obviously cannot ride. If you learned to ride-properly-you would be able to control the horse. If you got to know the horse, seeing it as a living breathing creature rather than an animated form of transport then you would know how it was likely to react in various situations and be able to act accordingly. For the record, If I ride with my friend we often ride 2 abreast with me on the outside as hers is a young horse, slightly nervous, and while he is learning it gives him and his rider confidence and is safer for all concerned. So I would stick to your bikes, and your cars, and leave the handling of anything more advanced to those who are capeable, as it sounds as though you can just about manage to look after yourself half the time.

It's scary ! You ride 2 abreast, on the roads and one of the horses is quite nervous and while the horse is "learning" you're putting all the other road users at risk. If you and yer mate want to go on horses, why take them on public roads? why can't you ride them around a paddock or field, then your friends horse can be as nervous as he likes and the only people at risk are the 2 individuals who chose to ride the horses in the first place. Please forgive me if you were using your horses to get to an important engagement, shopping or an emergency etc which if you only have a horse as a form of transport then that is quite understandable. If you were just posing in your jodhpurs then God help us.

By the way, I have ridden horses, several times. I'm aware it's an animal and as such it's unpredictable, just like dogs. 1 x 15 year old kid on back of 1 x unpredictable animal = high risk. Simples love.

 

[brokenflipflop]

Thanks BFF, that was fun.

Your amusing tales bring the troll out in quite a few of us. This thread seems dead now, but I hope you can think up another.

All that horse poo about a Transit coming past two horses side-by-side on a lane at 25-35mph will have to be thought out a little more for the next one.

We all love to be outraged by tales of ghastly driving or horsemanship, but it needs to be just the right side of credible.

I take my hat off to you for having a crack at it nonetheless. A noble effort! :troll::troll::troll::troll::troll::troll:

If you're suggesting I've made this all up bicycle you're quite wrong. I may crack a joke or wind a few self-righteous types up during the thread but I can assure you that the events I've described may not be mathematically and scientifically 100% perfect but I can say with conviction that I've been very, very accurate.

My wife has just looked over my shoulder and asked why "they" think I'm making this up. I've explained to her that these happenings on here have to be 100% perfect with diagrams, proof and receipts of previous horse riding experience, video evidence is good and then there are people (Guardian readers) who try and discredit my opinion by saying silly things, then I reply in the same vain then someone suggests because I do this then the whole thread must be a Troll and she replied......Jesus! I don't know why you effing bother you sad bar steward........My back's hurting a bit today by the way.

 

[ianrauk]

If you're suggesting I've made this all up bicycle you're quite wrong. I may crack a joke or wind a few self-righteous types up during the thread but I can assure you that the events I've described may not be mathematically and scientifically 100% perfect but I can say with conviction that I've been very, very accurate.

My wife has just looked over my shoulder and asked why "they" think I'm making this up. I've explained to her that these happenings on here have to be 100% perfect with diagrams, proof and receipts of previous horse riding experience, video evidence is good and then there are people (Guardian readers) who try and discredit my opinion by saying silly things, then I reply in the same vain then someone suggests because I do this then the whole thread must be a Troll and she replied......Jesus! I don't know why you effing bother you sad bar steward........My back's hurting a bit today by the way.

No... nor do we.

 

[brokenflipflop]

No... nor do we.

She was referring to Cyclechat although when she's taking the piss out of me in company "Cycletwat"

 

[brokenflipflop]

[QUOTE 1720768, member: 45"]Well then, as is usually the case, you're complaining about nothing.[/quote]
You're awfully rude

 

[Linford]

It's scary ! You ride 2 abreast, on the roads and one of the horses is quite nervous and while the horse is "learning" you're putting all the other road users at risk. If you and yer mate want to go on horses, why take them on public roads? why can't you ride them around a paddock or field, then your friends horse can be as nervous as he likes and the only people at risk are the 2 individuals who chose to ride the horses in the first place. Please forgive me if you were using your horses to get to an important engagement, shopping or an emergency etc which if you only have a horse as a form of transport then that is quite understandable. If you were just posing in your jodhpurs then God help us.

By the way, I have ridden horses, several times. I'm aware it's an animal and as such it's unpredictable, just like dogs. 1 x 15 year old kid on back of 1 x unpredictable animal = high risk. Simples love.

If I took the time to explain the answers to the above questions, would you bother to take the time to consider them as being given from 1st hand experience, and of someone who has personally owned horses for 10+ years, and been riding others on and off for over 40 ?

 

[Lisa21]

It's scary ! You ride 2 abreast, on the roads and one of the horses is quite nervous and while the horse is "learning" you're putting all the other road users at risk.Nobody is being put at risk at all. The horses are under complete control at all times.Its important to look ahead, to be aware of all around you, and to be able to act accordingly to prevent any risk. As you should have been doing, then you would have seen the white van with plenty of time to react and to get out of its way. Or were you so dangerously close to the rear of the horses hoping to incite them to spook so that you could prove a point to yourself? If you were keeping a sensible distance from the horses then you would have seen the van in time to move over."simples, love" If you and yer mate want to go on horses, why take them on public roads? why can't you ride them around a paddock or field, then your friends horse can be as nervous as he likes and the only people at risk are the 2 individuals who chose to ride the horses in the first place.Then the horse will never get used to anything outside his field. Just because you sit in your 4x4 on the drive because you love it so much doesnt mean its being driven y'know. The horses are schooled in a menage but need the experience of roads and real life. Sorry, "real life" may be a bit of an enigma to you...google its meaning if your not sure. Please forgive me if you were using your horses to get to an important engagement, shopping or an emergency etc which if you only have a horse as a form of transport then that is quite understandable. If you were just posing in your jodhpurs then God help us.

By the way, I have ridden horses, several times.Then as I said, you cannot ride. Takes more than several times round a field to learn. Thank god you dont go out on roads. I'm aware it's an animal and as such it's unpredictable, just like dogs. 1 x 15 year old kid on back of 1 x unpredictable animal = high risk. Simples love.

 

[Bicycle]

If you're suggesting I've made this all up bicycle you're quite wrong. I may crack a joke or wind a few self-righteous types up during the thread but I can assure you that the events I've described may not be mathematically and scientifically 100% perfect but I can say with conviction that I've been very, very accurate.

My wife has just looked over my shoulder and asked why "they" think I'm making this up. I've explained to her that these happenings on here have to be 100% perfect with diagrams, proof and receipts of previous horse riding experience, video evidence is good and then there are people (Guardian readers) who try and discredit my opinion by saying silly things, then I reply in the same vain then someone suggests because I do this then the whole thread must be a Troll and she replied......Jesus! I don't know why you effing bother you sad bar steward........My back's hurting a bit today by the way.

I Win!!!!

A weekend houseguest is about to leave and we had a 'fun' bet that your next post would include some mention of Mrs BFF's injuries and how much it all hurt.

I'd included in my prediction the very serious and sombre tone you took when telling me how very wrong I'd got it - but that wasn't what won the bet.

I was wrong in detail but right in terms of including Mrs BFF (and by implication her injuries) in the post.

The tragedy of these bets is that they are always for.... nothing.

But I'm not suggesting for a moment that your thread is a crock, BFF. It is 110% pure entertainment gold.

It's completely fictional, but I'm now aching as much from laughter as you are from your 'injuries'.