classic33
Leg End Member
Chances are they asked for their account deleted.
There's a few like that on here, with the number you see after Deleted Member being their number.
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There's a few like that on here, with the number you see after Deleted Member being their number.
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
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OP has asked for the account to be Closed.
This has been done by the Mod Team.
We aim to please.
Was he hurtling by at 40mph when he shouted his panicked request?
Jody
Stubborn git
cyberknight
As long as I breathe, I attack.
- Location
- Land of confusion
Blooming old fa@ts on cycle chat spoiling the fun for people,they will want us to stop at lights next 🤔
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
- Location
- Z’ha’dum
cyberknight
As long as I breathe, I attack.
- Location
- Land of confusion
I did think about posting that but didn't want to go to far 😅
Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
I always stop at green
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
I got furiously beeped by a van driver for not jumping the lights on my bike not so long ago. I failed to "amber gamble" and pulled up because I didn't fancy risking a right turn across the South Circular without a green light.
bonzobanana
Guru
https://www.mycle.co.uk/products/commander-fat-tyre-electric-bike?variant=42993630150898
They have basically used the example of mid-drive motor ebikes being legal and applied it to a hub motor ebike. It has taken the Chinese manufacturers and UK importers a long time to realise how the European legislation works as it doesn't make sense but yes you can have such a fat bike and legally ride it on the road.
However it has to be certified as 250W which as we all know is a complete joke with a huge range of different power ebikes all calling themselves 250W on the European market. The important thing is it mustn't assist beyond 15.5mph. As for the throttle some only operate while pedalling which is completely legal, others are restricted to something like 6kph which is legal and others may not function at all at the 15.5mph speed setting or just be disconnected. These ebikes are still slightly less powerful in wattage terms than many mid-drive motor ebikes but there isn't much in it.
Probably the best thing about these fat bike ebikes is the wider hub motor allows for more windings so they can be more competitive in torque with mid-drive motors and even deliver similar torque for less wattage.
The Gogo model doesn't appear to be certified for the European market but I doubt in actual electronic terms it is much different to the Mycycle model in overall wattage. If you want to make it legal of sorts I guess you need to put a 250W rating sticker on it and not unrestrict it. There has been discussions about this on the pedelec forum. The motor will operate at 250W and that is all the certification tests for not what the highest wattage it will take is which is incredibly strange and manipulative certification.
So yes you can have a high power fat ebike for climbing hills just like you can have a high power mid-drive e-mountain bike but you cannot have it with a full 15.5mph twist and go throttle.
There is however a motorcycle style ebike with fat tyres that is now legal with a high power probably 750W hub motor (classed as 250W) and full speed twist and go throttle;
https://pedibal.com/products/pedibal-cruiza-fat-tyre-electric-cruiser-ebike
That high power 80Nm hub motor ebike has to be individually tested and there doesn't seem to be any kickback/problem with having a high power hub motor and just calling it 250W same as mid-drive motors.
So there is now a single option for a high power hub motor ebike with fat tyres and full twist and go throttle but I personally prefer the larger 26" fat tyres over 20" so no legal 26" actual 750W fat bike with full throttle yet but perhaps pedibal will import one.
They have basically used the example of mid-drive motor ebikes being legal and applied it to a hub motor ebike. It has taken the Chinese manufacturers and UK importers a long time to realise how the European legislation works as it doesn't make sense but yes you can have such a fat bike and legally ride it on the road.
However it has to be certified as 250W which as we all know is a complete joke with a huge range of different power ebikes all calling themselves 250W on the European market. The important thing is it mustn't assist beyond 15.5mph. As for the throttle some only operate while pedalling which is completely legal, others are restricted to something like 6kph which is legal and others may not function at all at the 15.5mph speed setting or just be disconnected. These ebikes are still slightly less powerful in wattage terms than many mid-drive motor ebikes but there isn't much in it.
Probably the best thing about these fat bike ebikes is the wider hub motor allows for more windings so they can be more competitive in torque with mid-drive motors and even deliver similar torque for less wattage.
The Gogo model doesn't appear to be certified for the European market but I doubt in actual electronic terms it is much different to the Mycycle model in overall wattage. If you want to make it legal of sorts I guess you need to put a 250W rating sticker on it and not unrestrict it. There has been discussions about this on the pedelec forum. The motor will operate at 250W and that is all the certification tests for not what the highest wattage it will take is which is incredibly strange and manipulative certification.
So yes you can have a high power fat ebike for climbing hills just like you can have a high power mid-drive e-mountain bike but you cannot have it with a full 15.5mph twist and go throttle.
There is however a motorcycle style ebike with fat tyres that is now legal with a high power probably 750W hub motor (classed as 250W) and full speed twist and go throttle;
https://pedibal.com/products/pedibal-cruiza-fat-tyre-electric-cruiser-ebike
That high power 80Nm hub motor ebike has to be individually tested and there doesn't seem to be any kickback/problem with having a high power hub motor and just calling it 250W same as mid-drive motors.
So there is now a single option for a high power hub motor ebike with fat tyres and full twist and go throttle but I personally prefer the larger 26" fat tyres over 20" so no legal 26" actual 750W fat bike with full throttle yet but perhaps pedibal will import one.
I DEMAND MY RIGHT TO A NUMBER PLATE!!!1!!1
classic33
Leg End Member
From your link, requires DVSA approval for the throttle. Done on an individual basis.
classic33
Leg End Member
It's a legal requirement of the class of vehicle anyway.
Indeed; and would be for our lowly analogue bikes too, if a certain highly-vocal rage-flushed gammon minority had their way..
Aristotle Kristatos
Well-Known Member
De resticted ebikes are common and not necessarily illegal if they remain unnassisted over 15mph
How much power applied to that speed isn't noticed by the powers that be so having higher outputs is now the way people are setting them up.
0-16 mph just a few seconds is what you have to look for...
How much power applied to that speed isn't noticed by the powers that be so having higher outputs is now the way people are setting them up.
0-16 mph just a few seconds is what you have to look for...
