Would you recommend nuking the garage if Saluki doesn't get reparations?Actually, not much. I'd have just sent him a txt and asked, then passed it off as my own encyclopaedic knowledge
Does anyone in CC land work for an MOT garage?
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NorthernDave
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Damn - I knew the answer to this one, but it's already been answered!
In all honesty if the garage are "at it" he's more likely to be worried about VOSA than TS as they are more likely to take swift action, which could well hit his pocket.
Removal of the DPF was a well known trick to get cars through an MOT which is why the regs were eventually changed.
Good luck regardless though.
In all honesty if the garage are "at it" he's more likely to be worried about VOSA than TS as they are more likely to take swift action, which could well hit his pocket.
Removal of the DPF was a well known trick to get cars through an MOT which is why the regs were eventually changed.
Good luck regardless though.
Drago
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As aforementioned elsewhere I have joust bought Mrs Drago a new car.
The first one I looked at was a low mileage Megane auto. According the the DVLAs mot history page it had been tested 3 days prior to me viewing it, with no advisories. When I went to see it one tyre as illegal (I took my tread depth gauge with me) which is a fail, and the others were right on the limit, which should be an advisory. Clearly the wheels on it were not the ones it was wearing when it took the test. I suggested to the vendor that I believed it had actually been wearing the wheels from the other Megane he had for sale, and I'm left him spluttering a load of bullpois excuses as I walked away.
Traders will do anything to get a ticket, including substituting parts from other cars and swapping them back. While I feel your pain you have no way of proving that the DPF was absent at the time of the test - it could quite easily have been removed 10 minutes later. Obviously it wasn't, but there's a big gulf between knowing it and proving it.
The first one I looked at was a low mileage Megane auto. According the the DVLAs mot history page it had been tested 3 days prior to me viewing it, with no advisories. When I went to see it one tyre as illegal (I took my tread depth gauge with me) which is a fail, and the others were right on the limit, which should be an advisory. Clearly the wheels on it were not the ones it was wearing when it took the test. I suggested to the vendor that I believed it had actually been wearing the wheels from the other Megane he had for sale, and I'm left him spluttering a load of bullpois excuses as I walked away.
Traders will do anything to get a ticket, including substituting parts from other cars and swapping them back. While I feel your pain you have no way of proving that the DPF was absent at the time of the test - it could quite easily have been removed 10 minutes later. Obviously it wasn't, but there's a big gulf between knowing it and proving it.
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Saluki
World class procrastinator
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The Saab garage doesn't do the MOTs, we've just dug out the MOT cert. It's another chap, around the corner so Saab person unlikely to be that bothered about it, I shouldn't think as it's not going to affect his livelihood if the local MOT garage crashes and burns.Damn - I knew the answer to this one, but it's already been answered!
In all honesty if the garage are "at it" he's more likely to be worried about VOSA than TS as they are more likely to take swift action, which could well hit his pocket.
Removal of the DPF was a well known trick to get cars through an MOT which is why the regs were eventually changed.
Good luck regardless though.
I am off to bed. Tomorrow is another day and I am knackered.
Smurfy
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The MOT tester who passed it should be investigated by the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/complain-about-an-mot
The form says there is a time limit for complaints, but I'd do it anyway as you have a good reason for not reporting straight away.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ta/file/449313/complain-about-an-mot-vt17.pdf
They'll probably put in a vehicle with known defects, and see if it gets passed. Although the only problem with that approach is that it doesn't identify MOT testers who do favours for the garage next door, on the understanding that they get all the testing work as long as they are willing to overlook some defects.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/complain-about-an-mot
The form says there is a time limit for complaints, but I'd do it anyway as you have a good reason for not reporting straight away.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ta/file/449313/complain-about-an-mot-vt17.pdf
They'll probably put in a vehicle with known defects, and see if it gets passed. Although the only problem with that approach is that it doesn't identify MOT testers who do favours for the garage next door, on the understanding that they get all the testing work as long as they are willing to overlook some defects.
growingvegetables
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[QUOTE 4100815, member: 9609"]what people are doing now is, taking the DPF off, boring a 2" hole through the filter from top to bottom, refit it, effectively it no longer has a DPF but as far as the MOT centre is concerned, it looks like one so it passes. Of course if you do this you are potentially causing serious health problems to anyone breathing in the particle matter, and cyclist are particularly at risk. Sadly, I believe their are a lot of big diesel vehicles on the road that have had stuff like the DPFs removed.[/QUOTE]
Levo-Lon
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that may be the case im affaid..mot in house you would have a lot more leverage..
Actually the car was purchased from the dealer who handled the MOT. The buck stops with the dealer. The dealer has to rectify it. I will be surprised if the dealer principle does not act on it.
Levo-Lon
Guru
not according to the post 22..
Levo-Lon
Guru
I just found this on a Saab forum ..
you might be able to get the dpf sensors deleted from the ecu? Worth looking into..as saab are not made anymore..
I didn't have a choice in the matter. I bought the car not knowing that the guy had gutted the dpf and didn't delete the dpf from the software. As I later discovered after about 4 oil changes in 6 months due to fuel contamination. my car was smoking badly after about 5 minutes of driving. when I got the dpf delete done the smoke disappeared instantly.
p.s my local garage says he doesn't mind cars without dpf's and would pass the car no probs.
you might be able to get the dpf sensors deleted from the ecu? Worth looking into..as saab are not made anymore..
I didn't have a choice in the matter. I bought the car not knowing that the guy had gutted the dpf and didn't delete the dpf from the software. As I later discovered after about 4 oil changes in 6 months due to fuel contamination. my car was smoking badly after about 5 minutes of driving. when I got the dpf delete done the smoke disappeared instantly.
p.s my local garage says he doesn't mind cars without dpf's and would pass the car no probs.
Levo-Lon
Guru
This is the thread.
looking at DPF cost..they seem to be in the 150 250 price range so get a price from an exhaust place so you know what your looking at cost to mot wise..
http://www.saabscene.com/forum/threads/209593-DPF-removal-has-anyone-failed-the-MOT-because-of-it
looking at DPF cost..they seem to be in the 150 250 price range so get a price from an exhaust place so you know what your looking at cost to mot wise..
http://www.saabscene.com/forum/threads/209593-DPF-removal-has-anyone-failed-the-MOT-because-of-it
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Saluki
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just having a coffee and on way to get this sorted out. feeling a lot better after decent night's sleep.
As long as the MOT was arranged by the dealer and the car was sold to customer thereafter, the liability sits with the dealer. The complication is when the potential customer arranges for his or her own chap to do the MOT prior to purchase.
I am optimistic that it will be solved. Best of luck.
