Drivers that don't admit liability

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Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
They overtook me, and I carried on pedalling in to the side of her car.

Mine is, they overtook me, didn't get past, and turned. I was still pedalling as I always do through that section of road.


So whichever story you believe the fact remains that she turned left when her path was not clear to do so.

I'm sure others will point you in the direct of the correct section of the highway code, but you should not undertake any manouvre that causes others to brake or chance direction.

I think you have a strong case.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Decathlon are now selling the 'torch shaped' SD card cams - about £30, but you will get Decathlon's no messing 2 year g-tee.

You have a good case there OP - she admitted overtaking, then turning. Similar happened to a colleague - person very apologetic, until he came to phone back - not their fault etc etc. This person is a GP ! That's now stuck in the messy legal system.

Don't get too down beat about it - this is the problem these days - even when 'blame' is admitted, there is still a messy legal prcess to go through.

Priority - get yourself and the bike sorted first. These may have to be from your own pocket first.
 
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SportMonkey

Guest
Decathlon are now selling the 'torch shaped' SD card cams - about £30, but you will get Decathlon's no messing 2 year g-tee.

You have a good case there OP - she admitted overtaking, then turning. Similar happened to a colleague - person very apologetic, until he came to phone back - not their fault etc etc. This person is a GP ! That's now stuck in the messy legal system.

Don't get too down beat about it - this is the problem these days - even when 'blame' is admitted, there is still a messy legal prcess to go through.

Priority - get yourself and the bike sorted first. These may have to be from your own pocket first.

My bike still rides, the back inner tube keeps shredding now though, I bent bits back in to shape, however paying for two flights to a friends wedding in San Francisco has kind of killed my funds for this month.

Getting myself sorted - you know a good psychologist? Seriously though, right shoulder and hip ache, and don't have full movement. How long do hits hurt for?
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
You'll have to watch the shoulder and hip. I spent 2k on Physio on my shoulder, then needed operating on over two years later, and its still bloody painful.

See your GP and get it checked for rotator cuff or ac joint injury. See about Physio.
 
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SportMonkey

Guest
You'll have to watch the shoulder and hip. I spent 2k on Physio on my shoulder, then needed operating on over two years later, and its still bloody painful.

See your GP and get it checked for rotator cuff or ac joint injury. See about Physio.

Don't have a GP... I could rant about the nearest surgery that takes on patients (2 miles) saying we're out of catchment, same PCT. I do know it's not rotator as my left cuff got done in November.
 
Hmm, trying to remember now, not more than a few days... I seem to recall it came on a saturday. Just checked my emails. Ordered it 8th June, it arrived on 11th.


I am considering buying one as a first foray into helmet cams, minimal outlay for a test to see if it is worth it. How do you find the battery life, it says 3 hours on the website spec but the review video states 1 hour in the instruction booklet? I need at least 40 minutes to be safe on recording the whole of my commute but I'd like more just in case. How did you mount it to your helmet, I am thinking either zip ties, velcro straps or using that included handlebar mount?
 

whitebait

Active Member
Location
Colliers Wood
I am considering buying one as a first foray into helmet cams, minimal outlay for a test to see if it is worth it. How do you find the battery life, it says 3 hours on the website spec but the review video states 1 hour in the instruction booklet? I need at least 40 minutes to be safe on recording the whole of my commute but I'd like more just in case. How did you mount it to your helmet, I am thinking either zip ties, velcro straps or using that included handlebar mount?

Hey,

My commute's about 40-45 mins and it gets all that without running out. I plug it into my PC at work and charge it up through the day then the same when I get home. Never had it run out on me, but not sure if it'd last there and back without a charge... Would rather not try it 'cos you know that'd be the day when I really need it to be recording!

I mounted it using half the handlebar mount and a couple of zip ties. Need to find a spare half hour to refine it to get the angle right, maybe not use the mount, but put a ziptie or two around it to change the angle and ziptie it into a vent on the helmet. It's now fine for when I'm putting down pace, but then if I see something dodgy I sit up a little straighter and look up more, which means it ends up pointing a little too high...
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
Decathlon are now selling the 'torch shaped' SD card cams - about £30, but you will get Decathlon's no messing 2 year g-tee.

This one?
http://www.decathlon.co.uk/EN/sport-video-camera-dv15-137661510/#

Very interesting, i stopped taping my commutes and sold my cameras as i found the MD 80 clones battery life deteriorated to fast to make them viable in the long term, the fact that this looks like a torch means you have more chance of catching them inthe act that if you have an obvious camera.
 

Chilternrides

New Member
I think there is even small print in the insurance docs to support this, or there was when I first started driving and read everything. I remember the documents saying something along the lines of not admiting liability as when you do it takes the liability away from the insurer onto yourself.
You are right, but it's not in the small print - on most policies, or "in case of an accident" advice booklets it's one of the first conditions quoted - quite simply, any insurance company is not going to want their client admitting responsibility, because that then nullifies any chance of them wriggling out of paying up.
 

Chilternrides

New Member
I haven't got one as yet but I'm begining to think the same way


Reasonable enough, but I ride (at pace) through Central London everyday, and despite all the horror stories on here, the dodgy stuff doesn't happen to me all that much: Yes I have had my share of incidents, but I've had them driving my car (and when I still held the licence - given up by choice because my job no longer requires it - in my lorry too).

I have no doubt that when driving my decision making has been poor on occasion too - in fact I know it has, and if most of us were truthful, we've at some point all driven / ridden or even walked in a selfish or careless manner whether intentional or not.

I'm uncomfortable about cameras - there is rarely a true depth of field or proximity appreciation on view, and the way some users present it on line simply fuels the perceived militant cyclist claims of many objectors.

No apologies offered, it's the way I see it.

Great for supporting accident claims admittedly, but I feel there is an air of "looking for trouble" in the way some riders use their camera.

FFS look where you're going, think about what you are doing and expect people do do stupid things, anticipate it and choose your options early - the rate of "incidents" you encounter will drop dramatically.


Ah. just re-read this! Numbnuts this is not a dig at you, simply my take on what I have read or seen regarding conflicts with cameras and the subsequent discussions involved.

Right forummers, go for it - I've got my flak jacket on ;)
 
They overtook me, and I carried on pedalling in to the side of her car.

Mine is, they overtook me, didn't get past, and turned. I was still pedalling as I always do through that section of road.

http://www.direct.go...ycode/DG_070332

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When turning

• keep as close to the left as is safe and practicable
• give way to any vehicles using a bus lane, cycle lane or tramway from either direction




 
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