E-bike Cheats

[Ming the Merciless]

Yes, but they don't pedal as much as us to keep warm.

Bingo

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

I mostly just use Strava to see where I have been if I get lost and wander round to find my way back

and to log my mileage so I can see how many miles I have done each week/month

and all of them are Private so I get told where I would have come on segments
BUT no-one else can see it

so that is not pathetic - just me logging my own stuff
I used to use another one - but it got closed down

I would swap to something else - but strava has an extra feature I like
I can send a message to my wife so she can see where I am while I am out
so if I fall off and am lying in a ditch - then she has a decent chance of knowing where to send the ambulance!

I do wonder why that is pathetic - it is not a competition as I am the only one in it

 

[ColinJ]

You'd have to ask Strava about the veracity of that claim, but its pretty clear a speed limited legal ebike wont be blasting though any segments at 40+.

K/QoM = 'King/Queen of the Mountain', therefore uphill, and if steep, then slow. As in: way under 25 km/hr, and therefore able to receive a huge boost from the motor provided it is working within its torque limits. A hub motor might struggle on 15%, but a decent mid-drive ebike would help a decent rider destroy a legitimate K/QoM!

I wasn't timing myself on the climb mentioned below, but experienced exactly what decent ebikes can do on the steep stuff...

I grovelled up one such [10-20%] climb in the summer and was overtaken by a couple of women on ebikes who were chattering away and pedalling easily. I didn't see what machines they were riding but they looked very good and obviously had a lot of oomph. I'm fairly sure that they had mid-bike motors rather than the rear wheel type.

 

[wiggydiggy]

So many e-bikers who cheat and claim they were riding pedal bikes. Why do people cheat?

Strava E-bike Cheats

My eBike has pedals, you can just call none eBike bikes, people will know what you mean.

They don‘t achieve higher speeds, just higher average speeds. That, at least, is true in the UK.

I'm the same average speed on my eBike as my bike. One thing that surprised me was my ride to work was the same time on both as well. I would have thought it would have been faster too.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Bingo

I do - if I pedal harder then I go faster - just like a "normal" bike

it is just that I start off going a bit faster and when I get to 15.5 mph then I have to pedal harder than a "proper cyclist" to accelerate because the bike is heavier (who said - so are you?????)
and the motor adds drag

Of course I could just up the power assist instead - but that is not how I ride unless I am not feeling well

which is also - of course - not logged as Strava has no interface to the bike systems

 

[Pat "5mph"]

K/QoM = 'King/Queen of the Mountain', therefore uphill,

Colin, I was a QoM once (a faster friend made sure to ride the segment after me!), the segment was downhill.
I think K/QoM means whoever is first on the leaderboard of that segment.

 

[brommieinkorea]

Strava exists in the USA as well. Do they count all e- bikes a cross the entire website? That would run up the overall number of tiny motorcycles on Strava.
If someone wants to document their rides on Strava, I could care less.
Maybe the people who lie about what kind of bike they're on have gullible or stupid friends who admire this ?

 

[Dogtrousers]

So many e-bikers who cheat and claim they were riding pedal bikes. Why do people cheat?

Strava E-bike Cheats

I never used Strava.

So why are you bothered that people are "cheating" on it?

 

[UglyWithaSidePart]

I use Strava as a rudimentary kit mileage logger (since SportTracks went away), now and again I will try to beat my own previous performance but all my rides are private. So it's for me only.
I find quite a lot of StravaNauts are only measuring the wind speed and direction, effectively.
I don't care, doesn't affect me.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

I do - if I pedal harder then I go faster - just like a "normal" bike

Think how much harder you could work on just a bike On the same routes. I have yet yet to see any e biker working hard when out on the bike. They are mostly like those on exercise nikes at gym, talking to a mate on their phones.

 

[Dogtrousers]

I'd hazard a guess that a significant proportion of e-bike rides that are not classified as such on Strava aren't dastardly attempts to cheat. They have simply been uploaded and the rider has not reclassified them because they don't know they are supposed to, or they forgot to, or they don't know how to, or they just don't care.

Similarly, the "1.6 million activities suspected to have happened in vehicles" referenced in the article aren't people desperate to impress the world with their cycling prowess. Mostly they just left the GPS recording in the car.

Anyway, I still have my utterly fraudulent "70km/h" KoM bwahahaha.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Think how much harder you could work on just a bike On the same routes.

Oh yes
But I don;t ride a bike for "training" or fitness - I ride it for pleasure

so the amount of work I do is not a positive point

I don;t want to just ride it and sit there holding a throttle - the actual pedalling and effort is a good thing - but adding to it for "training purposes" or fitness is not something that would make it more attractive to me
so it would not help

I certainly have no interest in getting further up charts against people I do not know and who may be riding in totally different circumstances to me

I also think that if an electric motor is regarded as cheating

then all speeds/times should need to be based on a standard bike
because it would be much fairer if everyone on Strava has to ride a Raleigh Pioneers with full mudguards and only 5 gears
or whatever
someone on an "as much carbon as I can get on it" TT bike riding across the Runcorn-Widnes bridge is not competing in the same field as a bloke on a basic MTB from Halfords


But I totally agree with getting rid of the clear cheats

I have no idea how the tell the difference between a local lad who had got a half decent bike and so fat bloke on a basic ebike

apparently AI is the answer - which does not fill me with confidence!!!

 

[Supersuperleeds]

If you use Strava, follow this simple rule:

1) Anyone faster than you is a cheat. Feel free to ignore their acheivements and declare yourself the King/Queen.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

If you use Strava, follow this simple rule:

1) Anyone faster than you is a cheat. Feel free to ignore their acheivements and declare yourself the King/Queen.

Or - anyone ahead of me is a muppet and to be ignored as trying too hard

 

[Shut Up Legs]

I log my rides to a custom cycling trip logging application I wrote myself: one of the advantages of being a software developer by trade
As for the competitive aspect of Strava: I've never really been into that, but I know some people like it. It's a pity some people cheat and ruin it for the others.