Easy to get confused by expert cyclists.

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vickster

Legendary Member
Cause rim brakes suck. Can’t run fat tires, no good on gravel, or wet , or big decents... thing of the past dude... live in the now

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Dude :wacko:
Not really sure what your images are saying...I can’t see their brakes and have no interest in pro cycling
 

PaulSB

Legendary Member
Can I ask why
I’m kinda new to cycling. Like started last year. And started racing this year

A few guys have cervelos... they look pretty and these guys seem to do fine

what’s the criticism
I don't know why but from time to time critical remarks are made. From memory it revolves around using cheap Chinese frames and poor bottom brackets. I don't really take much notice.

Mine is superb and I know other happy Cervelo riders. In the real world I don't know anyone who criticises bikes to any great extent.

Overall I feel if bikes are in some way a rip off the manufacturers would have been found out by now.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
They have been found out, but a sufficient number of buyers can't see beyond the brand name.

Great bikes, but no better than mechanically comparable machines, from manufacturers who are more open about the source of their frames/bikes, who don't bang on about "heritage" (althouth Cervelo, being a fairly young brand, aren't the worst for this) while supplying far eastern bikes with no heritage, and then charging a premium for the privilege.

If that floats your boat, go for it. Its your money and if thats what makes you happy then it was worth every penny, but don't try and pretend that their business model isn't based upon squeezing extra coin from their customers for nothing tangible in return.

There is nothing physically wrong, they are very decent bikes, but they have still been 'found out' by buyers buying equally fine machinery elsewhere for significantly less outlay . You have chosen to overlook that for no other reason than you happen to own one. Once again, thats absolutely fine, but don't pretend that makes them superior in some way.
 

Lovacott

Über Member
Overall I feel if bikes are in some way a rip off the manufacturers would have been found out by now.
There are some very good firms in China,Cambodia etc. who turn out consistently good quality product. Their factories are modern, hi-tech and their processes are well thought out.

Their labour costs are low which creates a handsome proft and they are producing boxes and boxes of identical bikes copied from an engineered prototype/template.

Now just imagine if one of those identical bikes failed and killed the rider and that fault was found to be endemic in all bikes of that model?

The UK Vendor would be crucified in the press for selling cheap dodgy bikes which would destroy its reputation amongst the great unwashed as the leading UK bike specialist.

To try and cover some of its disastrous losses, the UK Vendor would instigate a recall to rectify the fault and would activate an indemnity clause against the manufacture.

So, if a manufacturer routinely used cheap materials, bad factory processes and slack quality control, they would indeed have been found out by now.
 

Milkfloat

An Peanut
Location
Midlands
There are some very good firms in China,Cambodia etc. who turn out consistently good quality product. Their factories are modern, hi-tech and their processes are well thought out.

Their labour costs are low which creates a handsome proft and they are producing boxes and boxes of identical bikes copied from an engineered prototype/template.

Now just imagine if one of those identical bikes failed and killed the rider and that fault was found to be endemic in all bikes of that model?

The UK Vendor would be crucified in the press for selling cheap dodgy bikes which would destroy its reputation amongst the great unwashed as the leading UK bike specialist.

To try and cover some of its disastrous losses, the UK Vendor would instigate a recall to rectify the fault and would activate an indemnity clause against the manufacture.

So, if a manufacturer routinely used cheap materials, bad factory processes and slack quality control, they would indeed have been found out by now.
Not if the ordering company specified crap in the first place.
 

Lovacott

Über Member
All this talk about rim brakes, 19 century that way ———> :dance:
Used brake discs make brilliant Throwing Stars.

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RoadRider400

Some bloke that likes cycling alone
Not at all.

When I got my first roadbike I randomly clicked around on ebay offerings and did my own researched based on manufacturers specs. I do not feel a so called expect would have given me any useful information, but may have caused me to spend twice as much money.

FWIW I still have the bike and it does everything I need a bike to do.
 
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