Emma on Way to court

[TwickenhamCyclist]

My hate grows stronger for this silly bitch! I hope she gets lynch mobbed & her life made to be hell after this.

Yes, she certainly deserves that and more, much more.

Doesn't she deserve a fair trial, and then if found guilty, to be given an appropriate sentence?

 

[dodgy]

/woooosh

 

[Milzy]

Doesn't she deserve a fair trial, and then if found guilty, to be given an appropriate sentence?

Errrrrm, no. Since I started visiting CC forum around 3 cyclists have been killed a week. Sometimes tragic accidents happen but there's monsters like Emma Way with the worst possible attitude & lack of knowledge. They need to make an example of her & then maybe these dangerous killers can be educated not to use their vehicles as lethal weapons.

 

[Milzy]

[QUOTE 2601962, member: 30090"]Its like you are trying to Imply that people wantonly use thier car as a lethal weapon. Thats not true.

She will get off though.

Her word against his regarding the incident and the tweet she'll pass off as some macho bravado and that none of it was actually true regarding her tweet.[/quote]

I totally agree with the last two statements.

 

[hopless500]

[QUOTE 2601962, member: 30090"]Its like you are trying to Imply that people wantonly use thier car as a lethal weapon. Thats not true.

She will get off though.

Her word against his regarding the incident and the tweet she'll pass off as some macho bravado and that none of it was actually true regarding her tweet.[/quote]

But it's not just his word. He was taking part in an event and there were others around.

 

[classic33]

[QUOTE 2601962, member: 30090"]Its like you are trying to Imply that people wantonly use thier car as a lethal weapon. Thats not true. [/quote] I've been purposly pushed out into the path of an articulated lorry, onto a roundabout, by the driver of the vehicle behind me. He was showing off to his mates that were in the car at the time. Well known shortcut between two motorway junctions, with roadworks between the junctions.

He knew what he was doing & thought it was funny doing it. If that isn't using the vehicle as a leathal weapon, what is?

 

[TwickenhamCyclist]

Errrrrm, no. Since I started visiting CC forum around 3 cyclists have been killed a week. Sometimes tragic accidents happen but there's monsters like Emma Way with the worst possible attitude & lack of knowledge. They need to make an example of her & then maybe these dangerous killers can be educated not to use their vehicles as lethal weapons.

I agree she's ignorant and has a terrible attitude, and that many motorists need to be educated. I understand the anger. I just think the idea of mob rule kind of sucks (however tempting it may be in certain circumstances.) If convicted, and her sentence is on the low side, as it often is when motorists show scant regard for the lives of cyclists, then I think energy should be directed to raising awareness of this injustice and channel the action into improving the law.

 

[TwickenhamCyclist]

Errrrrm, no. Since I started visiting CC forum around 3 cyclists have been killed a week. Sometimes tragic accidents happen but there's monsters like Emma Way with the worst possible attitude & lack of knowledge. They need to make an example of her & then maybe these dangerous killers can be educated not to use their vehicles as lethal weapons.

She isn't entitled to a fair trial?

 

[Milzy]

She isn't entitled to a fair trial?

I feel the trail would be a waste of time & money. She's admitted it then denied it. The police have enough information IMO. She should just be sentenced. Even though she'll get off she should get plenty of stick from certain people so that will have to be the rough justice. Poor Emma.

 

[classic33]

She isn't entitled to a fair trial?

She's already seen to that part herself. Anthing that follows could/can hardly be classed as a fair trial. She may have been acting on the advice of her legal team, but she'll not get a fair trial due to the amount of coverage she managed to get for herself.
It might even get thrown out, due to the amount of adverse publicity that has preceeded the trial. That & possibly having lost her job may be seen "as punishment enough".

 

[Hip Priest]

Errrrrm, no. Since I started visiting CC forum around 3 cyclists have been killed a week. Sometimes tragic accidents happen but there's monsters like Emma Way with the worst possible attitude & lack of knowledge. They need to make an example of her & then maybe these dangerous killers can be educated not to use their vehicles as lethal weapons.

She's not a monster. She's a nobber.

 

[livpoksoc]

18 pages is a bit much to read on a friday night. Either way, he did something stupid & would have got away with it had it not been for her own stupidity to tweet about it. The internet is a large cauldron of vicious sharp tongued stupid idiots & she is now feeling the recompense of that action.

Her appearance on BBC Breakfast was desperate and stupid, almost as stupid as having her brief sat right next to her.

The real problem, despite the obvious abundance of stupid decisions made, is that despite the fall out of this case, a cyclist was hit though not seriously hurt & the driver in the incident has been located but faces much more serious consequences than had she stopped at the side of the road and not voiced her ignorance in some vein attempt to appear modal. Sorry love, but the cycling community is a very opinionated one.

You would hope the judge would take into account the incident itself as one issue and her actions afterwards as a separate set of problems to address. She shouldn't deserve to lose her job and be prevented from practicing in the future, instead she needs to be dealt with in a way that is fair but underlines the need to educate her decision making process and for others out there who think the VED gives them the ultimate right of way on the roads.

Failing that, if she is blocked from being a bean counter she may make it as a minor celebrity/icon in a safety campaign.

 

[Hip Priest]

To be fair to Milzy's point of view, there is a large extent to which she is an unintentional, casual, monster. She almost certainly doesn't see herself as a bad person but, like most people, has never stopped to think about the everyday impacts of normal everyday actions simply because it is routine and ordinary.

Still think monster is incorrrect. That term is normally reserved for child killers, in an attempt to dehumanise then. She collided with a cyclist and didn't have the maturity to stop and check that he was ok. Instead, she offered a clumsy justification on Twitter. She's an idiot, not a monster.

 

[EltonFrog]

She is a silly, thoughtless, immature, self obsessed girl, who thinks, like many do, that what she says on twitter is amusing to her freinds, and thought like many do that what she wrote was between her and her friends. Also, like many young people she was not prepared to take personal responsibility for her actions, both for the accident, and for silly childish uninformed remarks on twitter. For that she will have to have that hanging over her for the rest of her life, because it will be forever on the Internet, for all her family to see, her children and her grandchildren. As for the driving offences for which she is charged, she is entitled to her day in court, I doubt very much she will get away with it, but the punishment will no doubt be proportionate to the offence, though many cyclists on forums across the country will disagree with it.

 

[classic33]

18 pages is a bit much to read on a friday night. Either way, he did something stupid & would have got away with it had it not been for her own stupidity to tweet about it. The internet is a large cauldron of vicious sharp tongued stupid idiots & she is now feeling the recompense of that action.

Her appearance on BBC Breakfast was desperate and stupid, almost as stupid as having her brief sat right next to her.

The real problem, despite the obvious abundance of stupid decisions made, is that despite the fall out of this case, a cyclist was hit though not seriously hurt & the driver in the incident has been located but faces much more serious consequences than had she stopped at the side of the road and not voiced her ignorance in some vein attempt to appear modal. Sorry love, but the cycling community is a very opinionated one.

You would hope the judge would take into account the incident itself as one issue and her actions afterwards as a separate set of problems to address. She shouldn't deserve to lose her job and be prevented from practicing in the future, instead she needs to be dealt with in a way that is fair but underlines the need to educate her decision making process and for others out there who think the VED gives them the ultimate right of way on the roads.

Failing that, if she is blocked from being a bean counter she may make it as a minor celebrity/icon in a safety campaign.

No, they should be treated as the one issue. She drove someone off the road, failed to stop as required, failed to report it, as required. And then brags about what she'd just done on twitter. Whilst still driving the same vehicle. I thought that mobile phone use(hand held) whilst driving had been illegal for some years in this country.

Would you want the same rule to apply if the vehicle that she forced off the road had been a motor vehicle. Somehow I don't think so, nor do I think it would have been allowed to drag on quite so long as it has done. Nor would she have been allowed to give her side of the story on national TV, prior to any hearing taking place.

We, as cyclists have as much right to be able to use the roads as any car driver. Whatever their thoughts about us, and what that gives them the "right" to do to us. And that is just as important to get across as the fact that what she did, and bragged about doing were & are wrong.