Davidc
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rustychisel said:
Germany to lose 4-0 if England play at their full potential.
More likely a draw at the end of extra time and _ _ _ _ a n _ lose. (please fill in the blanks)!
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Germany to lose 4-0 if England play at their full potential.
More likely a draw at the end of extra time and _ _ _ _ a n _ lose. (please fill in the blanks)!
trustysteed
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Davidc said:
err, that was in 2001, 9 years ago. 1966, 2001. ffs.
meenaghman
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trustysteed said:
Don't forget 1918 and 1945 !
hackbike 666
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Soltydog said:I was working that night & I'm working this Sunday, so maybe ???
Im am working this time although but may get home just in time,I missed the 5-1....hopefully I can be a good Omen 666.
Davidc
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trustysteed said:
I did say memories!
Don't think I fancy betting on this result, but there's one German former player I'd just love to see eating humble pie .........
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Davidc said:
Humble Pie...or Muller Rice!
Davidc
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Aperitif said:Humble Pie...or Muller Rice!
Deadly nightshade flavour Muller Fruit Corner?
mangaman
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Smokin Joe said:Thanks for the team talk Franz, it's sure to fire us up -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/24/world-cup-2010-beckenbauer-england-stupid
I was about to bring that up smoking Joe.
Beckenbauer has been sniping at England throughout - maybe he's a bit nervous
I've not been impressesd by either team to be honest so far. Beckenbauer seems to have conveniently forgotten the fact they lost to Serbia and scraped a 1-0 win over Ghana.
They hardly look like world beaters.
England's defence does reassure me.
I think Ashley Cole is the best left back in the tournament, Glen Johnson has done surprisingly well in defence as well as going forward. Terry played very well against Slovenia and Carragher is back (probably the weakest link) and James has looked solid.
We have still only conceded one goal in the tournament - a Rob Green OG basically.
If we get our midfield/strikers playing to their potential I think we are a better team than Germany.
swee'pea99
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Something else of interest in today's Grauniad - a letter from a Cambridge professor:
Capello still hasn't got my "two goalkeepers" point (Letters, 23 June). Against Slovenia, he's tried to keep Gerrard and Lampard out of each other's way, but there's a double cost: pushing Gerrard out wide where he's wasted, while Barry, not Lampard, takes on Gerrard's role as the key creative player in the centre – not Barry's best role, which is the holding player. This happens because Lampard doesn't relish the role of central creator – he likes to be free to arrive in the box at the right moment to score. Only if Capello leaves out Lampard can Gerrard and Barry play their best roles for England. Releasing Lampard's place also means many more wide options, where England have enviable talent to attack the Germans. It's Capello's Jimmy Greaves moment – this is when we find out whether he really can face up to tough decisions and create the optimal team on the pitch, not simply juggle with the most celebrated names.
Professor Simon Szreter
St John's College, Cambridge
And people say they live in an ivory tower...
Capello still hasn't got my "two goalkeepers" point (Letters, 23 June). Against Slovenia, he's tried to keep Gerrard and Lampard out of each other's way, but there's a double cost: pushing Gerrard out wide where he's wasted, while Barry, not Lampard, takes on Gerrard's role as the key creative player in the centre – not Barry's best role, which is the holding player. This happens because Lampard doesn't relish the role of central creator – he likes to be free to arrive in the box at the right moment to score. Only if Capello leaves out Lampard can Gerrard and Barry play their best roles for England. Releasing Lampard's place also means many more wide options, where England have enviable talent to attack the Germans. It's Capello's Jimmy Greaves moment – this is when we find out whether he really can face up to tough decisions and create the optimal team on the pitch, not simply juggle with the most celebrated names.
Professor Simon Szreter
St John's College, Cambridge
And people say they live in an ivory tower...
mangaman
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swee said:
I agree with him too.
I would drop Lampard and play Joe Cole on the left, Gerard and Barry in the middle and Milner.
And I would drop Rooney (who's not fit and has been our worst player in all 3 games) and play Crouch and Defoe - who play together very successfully for Spurs.
It won't happen - Rooney / Gerard / Lampard seem undroppable however crap they play.
swee'pea99
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You'd probably go along with his earlier letter too:
Everybody is scratching their heads in frustration at England's woeful performances on the pitch. The fault undoubtedly lies with the manager and it is absolutely obvious what it is. Like Eriksson and McLaren before him, Capello is falling into the trap of trying to play two goalkeepers at once. What do I mean by this? When England was lucky enough to have the two best goalies in the world, nobody tried putting them both on the pitch at the same time. This is the mistake the overpaid, celebrity-obsessed England managers keep making, putting both Gerrard and Lampard on the pitch together.
In all great teams each individual plays a unique and complementary role, as Alf Ramsey knew, famously playing Geoff Hurst instead of Jimmy Greaves, not alongside him. England currently has the two greatest attacking midfielders in the world at its disposal, but played together they destroy the team's balance, harmony and rhythm.England's best performances in the last few years occurred when Lampard was unavailable through injury. Neither McLaren at the time, nor Capello since, drew the obvious conclusion. Less is more.
Everybody is scratching their heads in frustration at England's woeful performances on the pitch. The fault undoubtedly lies with the manager and it is absolutely obvious what it is. Like Eriksson and McLaren before him, Capello is falling into the trap of trying to play two goalkeepers at once. What do I mean by this? When England was lucky enough to have the two best goalies in the world, nobody tried putting them both on the pitch at the same time. This is the mistake the overpaid, celebrity-obsessed England managers keep making, putting both Gerrard and Lampard on the pitch together.
In all great teams each individual plays a unique and complementary role, as Alf Ramsey knew, famously playing Geoff Hurst instead of Jimmy Greaves, not alongside him. England currently has the two greatest attacking midfielders in the world at its disposal, but played together they destroy the team's balance, harmony and rhythm.England's best performances in the last few years occurred when Lampard was unavailable through injury. Neither McLaren at the time, nor Capello since, drew the obvious conclusion. Less is more.
swee'pea99
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Footballology?
Flying_Monkey
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mangaman said:I do - I wonder what he's a professor of - I might go to some of his lectures
He works on the history of population change - I know his work on identification very well. http://www.hist.cam.ac.uk/academic_staff/further_details/szreter.html
