EV Owners Thread

[ianrauk]

Out of interest what area are you in?

Rochester town centre.

It wouldn't have to be at least 25m long. 10 would cover 50% of use cases. 20 pretty much 100%. In residential areas, lamp posts are usually closer together, and the chances of you having to park dead in the middle are slim.

Still too much faff with a long cable 10m is still over 30 feet of cable. That would take up a lot of boot space. And as I said, I wouldn't trust area for it not to be stolen/tampered with when out of sight. And say you had the cable max stretch to park, where would the cable go? On the pavement?
In our residential area the streets are over 100 years old so lamp posts are spaced far apart. We only have 4 in our street of 50 houses. And the posts are set against the houses as apposed to road side due to narrow pavements.

I admire your tenacity at trying to find a solution. But in our case. There isn't a satisfactory one.

 

[CXRAndy]

As per my previous posts. Plug in's simply doesn't work for us.

I was talking about the concept of the vehicle. You'd be better off with a standard ICE car.

 

[ianrauk]

I was talking about the concept of the vehicle. You'd be better off with a standard ICE car.

Of which we currently have. It's not for want of trying or not wanting. The infrastructure unfortunately is not and will not be there for streets like ours.

 

[midlife]

Nice loaner you lucky swine!

At £60k-£70k it should be nice .

 

[Venod]

At £60k-£70k it should be nice

It was very well finished, inside and out, the acceleration was frightening, 0 to 60 in less than 4 secs, but very smooth.
The fastest accelerating car I have ever driven.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

but lampposts are usually next to the road

In my neighbourhood the lampposts are currently along the kerbside. However, the council has just begun removing the old lampposts and installing new ones farthest from the kerb.

They’re obviously not preparing to use them as possible charging points, given the hazard that trailing cables would present to pedestrians.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

I’ve been looking for a home charger for the car and like the look (and reviews) of the Easeee One 7kw.
I was on their site and noticed that they also do a 22kw version, called the Easee Charge, although the details say that this version isn’t available in the UK.

I was surprised, then, to find the 22kw option for sale at £698 from a UK supplier who is also selling the 7kw option at £528. Is there any technical reason I can’t have the 22kw option fitted? If I can get it fitted, would it be overkill?

The spec states:

“Easee Charge is a 22kw EV charger that provides the perfect solution for EV-Charging at home or in workplaces, apartment blocks, car parks, and fleets.

This EV charger features 1 and 3 phase charging with a Type 2 socket delivering lightning-fast charging speeds that are up to 10x faster than conventional outlets, giving you the highest power available with the capacity you have. For the fastest charging time, a 3-phase installation is recommended, but you'll still get 3 times faster than average charging with single phase installation.”

 

[Buck]

7kW is the “standard” for UK homes
22kW is if your home has 3 phase electricity.

 

[icowden]

I was surprised, then, to find the 22kw option for sale at £698 from a UK supplier who is also selling the 7kw option at £528. Is there any technical reason I can’t have the 22kw option fitted? If I can get it fitted, would it be overkill?

It's not overkill, but as @Buck points out, a 22kw charger needs a 3 phase supply. To convert from single phase to 3 phase will cost from around £3000 upwards depending on how close you are to the nearest 3 phase supply point and how much stuff needs to be dug up and replaced. If you are a long way it could go into the tens of thousands.

A 7kw charger will refill a car from around 20% to 100% in 9 to 10 hours. Most of the time you'll be refilling between 20% and 40% and usually filling up to 80% or so. So overnight is a full charge. If you have a long journey planned you'll want a bit longer to make sure you have 100%.

A 22kw charger will reduce that to 3 to 4 hours.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

It's not overkill, but as @Buck points out, a 22kw charger needs a 3 phase supply.

Yet the blurb I pasted above says : "This EV charger features 1 and 3 phase charging ... a 3-phase installation is recommended, but you'll still get 3 times faster than average charging with single phase installation.”

 My reading of that is that I can use it without upgrading to a 3-phase supply. Am I missing something?

 

[icowden]

Yet the blurb I pasted above says : "This EV charger features 1 and 3 phase charging ... a 3-phase installation is recommended, but you'll still get 3 times faster than average charging with single phase installation.”

 My reading of that is that I can use it without upgrading to a 3-phase supply. Am I missing something?

Your reading is fine. It's the blurb that is false. That installer is as dodgy as.

Go to the Easeee website. You will see that the UP and the MAX both state that charging will be limited to 7.4kw on a single phase supply.

 

[CXRAndy]

We have 3 phase at our property
The maximum power delivery is 22kW on 3 phase for EV chargers.

Single phase setups are a maximum of 7.2-7.4kW

My model S can charge at 17kW at does

Where as our Nissan leaf is still using the same type of charger and is limited to 7kW.

Benefit of 3 phase is I can charge multiple cars at the same time

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Your reading is fine. It's the blurb that is false. That installer is as dodgy as.

Go to the Easeee website. You will see that the UP and the MAX both state that charging will be limited to 7.4kw on a single phase supply.

Thanks.

i did query it with the supplier by email but, apart from an automated acknowledgement, there’s been no reply. https://www.electricpoint.com/easee-charge.html

I’ll stick with the 7kw version.

 

[CXRAndy]

Thanks.

i did query it with the supplier by email but, apart from an automated acknowledgement, there’s been no reply. https://www.electricpoint.com/easee-charge.html

I’ll stick with the 7kw version.

If you've got 3 phase use it, as most chargers are built to accept both. They are wired upon installation to single phase if that is the only power source. I was told by Zappi engineer just a few weeks ago. He also told me Ohm are the same too