even jamie thinks snickers bars are good!!

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ChrisKH

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User3094 said:
Which would be great, if we was from working class Essex. He isnt.

[speak to his dad, Trevor, if you need evidence!]

As a parent, I know accent and vocabulary is as much a function of school, peers and what is fashionable. I have no idea how they speak in Claverley to be honest.

Why is it such a bad thing if he does put it on?

PS Is there a working class Essex? Possibly Dagenham and Grays but the rest is a real mix and accent will vary.
 
Come on, Chris, you've agreed with Spinney yet given me a treatise in rebuttal, when we were both saying the same thing.
 

ChrisKH

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Twenty Inch said:
Come on, Chris, you've agreed with Spinney yet given me a treatise in rebuttal, when we were both saying the same thing.

My original post was just to point out that some people in Essex do actually talk like that. Admittedly in retrospect looking at where Claverley is and where he went to school I think it's unlikely that Jamie is not putting it on to some degree. But it doesn't bother me, as I said it's part of the sales pitch. I am, I have to be honest, suspicious of prejudice on the basis of how someone talks because it is just that, a prejudice. Is he a nob for talking like that? Well, it works for him. I think I would come undone in criticising him since my own accent and original vocabulary isn't a million miles away, but not in the 'pukka' league I'll admit.

I don't think he will be the first person to modify the way he talks whilst on television. I would be interested to know how many of his critics though are actually from the South East or Essex - is there not an element of regional snobbery going on here? How different would it be if I criticised Jimmy Nail for his use of colourful regional language for example?
 
ChrisKH said:
My original post was just to point out that some people in Essex do actually talk like that. Admittedly in retrospect looking at where Claverley is and where he went to school I think it's unlikely that Jamie is not putting it on to some degree. But it doesn't bother me, as I said it's part of the sales pitch. I am, I have to be honest, suspicious of prejudice on the basis of how someone talks because it is just that, a prejudice. Is he a nob for talking like that? Well, it works for him. I think I would come undone in criticising him since my own accent and original vocabulary isn't a million miles away, but not in the 'pukka' league I'll admit.

I don't think he will be the first person to modify the way he talks whilst on television. I would be interested to know how many of his critics though are actually from the South East or Essex - is there not an element of regional snobbery going on here? How different would it be if I criticised Jimmy Nail for his use of colourful regional language for example?


Of course it's part of his USP, after all, we're all discussing him, aren't we? So it's working.

Do you not remember Received Pronunciation? The official BBC way of talking? It was around late enough for my accent to be influenced by it (I listed to Radio 4 a lot as a child).
 
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Twenty Inch said:
Of course it's part of his USP, after all, we're all discussing him, aren't we? So it's working.

It's a shame really - I applaud the work he's done on school meals and so on, so why does he have to persist with his idiotic persona?
 
Twenty Inch said:
I used to think Jamie was a mockney twunt who was riding a band wagon. However my opinion changed in the School Food programme where the camera caught him surreptitiously kissing the bread dough, to "spread the love" as he embarassedly explained when challenged. He really does care about good food, and about the people who don't have access to it and whose lives are worse off as a result.

Good for him. We now always kiss the bread dough in our house.

Mme HF does that for special occasions, especially Easter and the start and end of Vendange. I always thought it was some weird religious French thing.
 
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