Some of the xxx does pay for the name, but some of it pays for more QC. Chinese factories will produce to the price point the customer asks for, with quality on a sliding scale.
Fire and explosion proof bags for batteries?
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Some of the xxx does pay for the name, but some of it pays for more QC. Chinese factories will produce to the price point the customer asks for, with quality on a sliding scale.
fritz katzenjammer
Der Ubergrosserbudgie
- Location
- Canada eh! Your land of back bacon.
Yup! It’s alll made in China anyway, you get what you pay for.
even then, I know from past experience in the automotive industry that you need to stay on top of your Chinese suppliers. They’ll find ways to improve their bottom line at your expense unless you watch them like a hawk. Companies that I have been involved with usually kept their own people employed over there to monitor production and quality as games were always being played with materials and processes to make it cheaper, and this even occurred in plants we owned!
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
- Location
- Z’ha’dum
This stuff has always been how factories work
a lot of them make similar things for different companies and just change the quality depending on the customer
When I used to work for Littlewoods I was talking to a guy in the Chain STore section one time when I was at a warehouse for a few days and had to stay in a hotel.
He worked in the quality control section and visited the factories than made the clothes. An Article had recently appeared in a paper saying that shirts (or whatever) made for Matalan were just the same as those made for Littlewoods
I was wearing a shirt from Littlewoods and he showed me the stitching and seams and stuff that we specified and how Matalan specified them differently which affected the quality - and the price paid to the factory
But the end customer would never notice the different - until it fell apart in2 years rather than 3 years
The same applies to ebike - the factory may make similar bike for several companies
but the cheapo ones will not be made the same as the expensive ones
(unless they can get away with it and the company doesn;t notice!!!)
a lot of them make similar things for different companies and just change the quality depending on the customer
When I used to work for Littlewoods I was talking to a guy in the Chain STore section one time when I was at a warehouse for a few days and had to stay in a hotel.
He worked in the quality control section and visited the factories than made the clothes. An Article had recently appeared in a paper saying that shirts (or whatever) made for Matalan were just the same as those made for Littlewoods
I was wearing a shirt from Littlewoods and he showed me the stitching and seams and stuff that we specified and how Matalan specified them differently which affected the quality - and the price paid to the factory
But the end customer would never notice the different - until it fell apart in2 years rather than 3 years
The same applies to ebike - the factory may make similar bike for several companies
but the cheapo ones will not be made the same as the expensive ones
(unless they can get away with it and the company doesn;t notice!!!)
presta
Legendary Member
Buy from a brand that has a reputation to protect.
The kosher Samsung batteries I bought for my old laptop cost thick end of £100, compared to £16 off Amazon.
Watch this steel ammo box jump around like a frog:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv_3vwSZmzA&t=26s
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
EVs are VERY low fire risk.
Ebike batteries are pretty low as well IF you buy reputable brands and not cheap knock-offs.
numbnuts
Squire
- Location
- Gone over the hill and far away
Not just the batterys, chargers as well
Mine stopped working, on ebay £15 the same from bike company £75, I went for the latter
ebikeerwidnes
Guru
- Location
- Z’ha’dum
It would help if there was a government standard for Lithium batteries - at least for ones over a certain Amp hours
AT least it would give people some sort of indication as to whether or not the battery they have is safe or not
AT least it would give people some sort of indication as to whether or not the battery they have is safe or not
stang74
New Member
- Location
- Jasper, Ga
There is a company called Li-fire that makes the specific item you are looking for. E-bike and Scooter cover.
T4tomo
Legendary Member
You do need to be a bit careful as they can go off with a quite a bang
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/ce31y2q76lko
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/ce31y2q76lko
figbat
Slippery scientist
- Location
- South Oxfordshire, UK
A "fireproof" bag won't stop a battery fire if it's going to start - all the fuel and accelerant needed is within the battery, which is why they are so hard to put out. A bag could contain the seat of the fire to slow or prevent it spreading and give you more time to respond but I wouldn't trust my house or family to it.
presta
Legendary Member
You need a doggie proof bag, as well as fire proof.
View: https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1820926449970282902
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